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Badger · 12-10-2007, 12:30 AM,

Alright, about 5 of you have said that you'd rather die or log off than pay above your self imposed arbitrary limits. Many of you have given reasons or excuses why you would do that, some (AoM's strict roleplay) are good, others (Morrigan's "I may be rich but that doesn't mean I can afford it!") aren't so much... But listen to yourselves. You are saying you would willingly break RP when a situation is unfavourable to you. Shame on you.

All I've said is that some characters can definitely afford more than this 3 million limit most of you seem to like so much. It's not hard to work out if a trader has several hundred million in their Neural Net. To a pirate, it doesn't matter if the X million they demand was made in 15 minutes or 15 days. If the trader can clearly pay it, then pay or die!

If you choose to die and/or log off every time, the pirate player will realise you value fictional credits over genuine player interaction and go somewhere else, find another player that is actually capable of playing the role of a trader.

You can whine about it all you like from your trader's point of view (and I encourage it, in fact). Your traders are not supposed to like being pirated. Your traders are supposed to avoid being pirated. Whining about being pirated from a player's point of view is akin to whining about dying after flying into a minefield. It's part of the game, mines hurt and pirates extort.

I honestly don't care if anyone agrees with my opinions on this anymore, you're all defending yourselves with no thought to maintaining an overall balanced roleplay universe. If I can't convince anyone that "taxing" a level 70+ trader more than 3 million is absolutely perfectly fine then we have a problem here. Discovery has an epidemic of spineless pirates.

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alance · 12-10-2007, 05:55 AM,

Quote:You are saying you would willingly break RP when a situation is unfavourable to you. Shame on you.

No you are metagaming and that's worse. Look at the ship and the cargo; don't metagame around the target's rank. You need to fix that part of your "rp" before throwing stones.

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to subjugate the enemy's army without doing battle is the highest of excellence."

Drake · 12-10-2007, 06:17 AM,

' Wrote:No you are metagaming and that's worse. Look at the ship and the cargo; don't metagame around the target's rank. You need to fix that part of your "rp" before throwing stones.

Indeed. Character level is an OORP number, you have no IC way of knowing how many credits someone has or how much they're worth. You should be taxing based off the size of their ship and/or cargo.

Juan_Arquero · 12-10-2007, 07:06 AM,

' Wrote:today i was pirating in my gb,i try to pirate a trader,and his reaction?F1 in space.then when he was online again i say him if he thing that is good idea make that and his answer was try it in roleplay id*ot...other dock,then undock and when see that i am stil near,again dock and switch to destroyer char and direct way to me and open fire on me.bbut now i have enough!!

When that trader used F1 to escape your attempt to pirate him, he violated server rules. When he switched to another character that has a destroyer to attack you, that is reengaging, another violation of the server rules. If you have screen shots of that trader doing any of this, please file a violations report. We don't need cheaters on this server.

Quote:when this read any trader,this is for all of you.from now on the nice kristina on board the ship tink is gone.i ask first time,and give some time,then i open fire until end.no second chances!becasue when pirate give you second chance and not destroy you you make something realy not good....

Don't take your anger out on all traders for what one (or more than one) trader has done in violation of server rules. Don't do something wrong, because somebody else did something wrong.

globalplayer-svk · 12-10-2007, 08:00 AM,

juan its not anger,ist my new tactic,first i will ask without fire.and give trader time to chose what he will.if pay or die.i was thinkin to fire first and damage trader and then ask.but thats not good for both sides i think.so i first ask.

Jihadjoe · (This post was last modified: 12-10-2007, 02:28 PM by Jihadjoe.)

I have also been on the other side of this a while ago. I was just leaving malta in my "trader" who at the time only flew a camara, with a hold full of cardimine. now when i got to omicron beta, a corsair (who's name i actually can't remember) asked me for 3mill. now i only had 300k in my neural net, and i told him this, requested to trade, and he said i was lying and that i had loads more cash i was just tight fisted, then blew me up.

now i think i may have just been on the receiving and of some rather D*ckwad-ish behavior, but this is far closer to the issue that this thread needs to address, how we treat wealthy traders in large transports is fairly irrelevant provided its done in rp. its the little guys who will feel the hit of a couple of million far worse than someone like morrigan with his 80mill+ in his account.

Drake · (This post was last modified: 12-10-2007, 02:52 PM by Drake.)

To be fair, he would have been completely within RP to just blow you to hell just for hauling cardamine. You're helping the arch-enemy of the Corsairs spread their poison.

Edit: Also, if you enjoy spreading that poison, the Blue Lotus Syndicate could always use more smugglers. *nudgewink*

Jihadjoe · 12-10-2007, 02:56 PM,

' Wrote:To be fair, he would have been completely within RP to just blow you to hell just for hauling cardamine. You're helping the arch-enemy of the Corsairs spread their poison.

Edit: Also, if you enjoy spreading that poison, the Blue Lotus Syndicate could always use more smugglers. *nudgewink*

i'm already running for [RoS]

I am [RoS]Juan_Zavala[V].

Drake · 12-10-2007, 02:58 PM,

' Wrote:i'm already running for [RoS]

I am [RoS]Juan_Zavala[V].

Close enough, I suppose.

Okay, that's my quota of shameless recruiting for the day, back to the topic!

MB52 · 12-12-2007, 04:54 AM,

If the sum is decent I may pay, or I may not.. depending if I'm in a mood for a chase.

Now... if someone tries to charge me more then what my cargo is worth.. its not likely I"ll pay, I'd prefer to hide in a station, or flee, than pay him, that crazy sum.

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