4.86 Release Date and Teaser

[Hades]

Well, you can mount them on your ship. Doesn't mean that mix-and-match tech will make you a PvP monster. We'll be putting in a flhook to reduce energy regeneration for players using technology they are not green to according to their ID. That way you have a choice: If you -want- to roleplay being a Red Hessian that stole a Titan and hunted himself a bag of Nomad guns, you can do so - just don't expect that combination to be any good in a fight as it'll take your energy a lot longer to recharge.

Also: Dragging up a 4 month old convo without checking it's still relevant?

Basically, giving people the illusion of freedom while subtly taking it away from them by making it useless? Interesting.

[Jinx]

Hades: in a nutshell, you are on the right track with that description ( in a rather limited way though ).... however - it won t be black and white like it might appear.

there isn t "useful" and "useless" - but there is also "just useful enough" or "barely useful" or anything in between.

also ....

the name of the server - despite much efford of some community member still contains the letters "RP".

usefulness is not defined by pvp ability, pvp skill pvp capability or so. - it is defined by displaying a character the best and more appropriate way possible. you can be a pvp god - and still suck in RP, even worse, you might be a pvp god - and be an utter scourge for other players who like to RP rather than pvp.

so - a character in a useless ship in terms of pvp - can still be 100% useful in terms of RP.

we are here for RP - even if some people insist on pvp being the pillars of it all.



to make it short - it is not an illusion - it is real - it is an illusion to think that pvp is all that matters for RP.

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[hollowpoint]

As it happens, 4.86 does have its own music written specifically for it. Just saying..

Wish I'd known i make music:(

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[AeternusDoleo]

Basically, giving people the illusion of freedom while subtly taking it away from them by making it useless? Interesting.

No, just putting in a counterbalance to prevent folk from taking the best guns and the best ship, and creating an overpowered combination from that as a result. A long overdue balance check, nothing more. For people who don't do spray and pray very little changes. For folk using debs and codes, or bomber weapons only, nothing changes. For folk who take, say, a black dragon and tizonas on a pirate ID, it'll impact quite a bit. For folk who on an IMG ID fly with Magma Hammers and a Karasu, it'll impact quite a bit as well.

Folk claiming to want tech for RP reasons (which is always the excuse) got no point to whine about this as it won't impact the roleplay. Weapons do the same damage, ships have the same cargo space and maneuvering speeds. Just the energy recharge is slower. Folk wanting tech for PVP advantages or getting around ZoI restrictions are frankly, out of luck, as pure PvP tends to rely on energy.

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Wide awake in a world that sleeps, enduring thoughts, enduring scenes. The knowledge of what is yet to come.
From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.

Mostly retired Discovery member. May still visit from time to time.

[AeternusDoleo]

Wish I'd known i make music:(

Development never ends. We can always incorporate new soundtracks in future versions. Development cycles for future versions are going to be a lot shorter. 4.86 taking so damn long was a misstake, one that'll not likely be repeated.

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Wide awake in a world that sleeps, enduring thoughts, enduring scenes. The knowledge of what is yet to come.
From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.

Mostly retired Discovery member. May still visit from time to time.

[hollowpoint]

cool well if theres someone i should make aware that i can help on the music side point me in their direction.

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[Dashiell]

I searched, couldn't find the answer. what'll happen to cap 7/ 8 gbs when the new version is released? banned for cheating?

Cuz you might want to throw out a general announcement then for people. One that says 'unmount any cap 7 / 8 from ur gb before 30th of december'

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[Toaster]

So it would be okay if I made a Blood Dragon in a LABC with Nomad turrets?

On a serious note, the idea of quasi-free equipment use sounds great and terrifying at the same time.

We'll see how it turns out, I guess.

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[Stefz]

For the tech stuff: I think it will be better if it stays as it is now.

Btw, Dash.

CAU 8s will fit in the gunboats, but it will require you use the weaponry that takes less cargo. ie; You choose defense or offense. The larger, slower gunboats with higher cargoes will have the ability to mount larger armors while keeping strong firepower. But they are far weaker to fighters and bombers than their smaller, less armored, more agile brethren.

For example, the Kusari and Bretonian Gunboats.

Kusari gunboat is very small, very fast, but has only 350 cargospace.
Bretonian gunboat is huge, slow, but has 480 cargospace. It will be able to fit a CAU 8 AND a lot of firepower, making it perfect for killing other gunboats, but weak against fighter swarms.



(These are .85 cargo values and may be subject to change.)

Quote from Dab. Hope it explains everything.

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[Crusader4]

Really looking forward to it, I already got bored of WoW:D

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