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The Kusari Exiles (4.86)
Offline West
12-14-2011, 02:12 PM,
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' Wrote:Zelot - one question.
People are giving you certain feedback - are you going to listen to them?
Because if you dont, well.. any complaining or arguing is just pointless.

I'm not Zelot.. but point me to it pls.
ZOI I told you already.... in .85 BAF were able to reach NT/Honshu... why can't we reach Gallia core worlds with some fighters using backdors?

Alliance with Gaians... hmm no clear point here.... we do not support bretonia... and do not hunt them.. why would gaians be against us and not friendly as it was in .85?

Possible ships? - already told you.


Andrzej:

Sorry but OC presence in newcastle not that big... and mollies... well, if they won't attack us.. we won't touch them.
Guerilla fighters? in kusari? did you read zelot post at all?
Bretnoia arresting officers? what would be better for them 70k of their fighters + 5k from remaining knf.... or 65k after battle with that remaining forces?

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Offline Drider
12-14-2011, 02:18 PM,
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Quote:I'm not Zelot..
Pretty much not - and i doubt you are the one who can affect his decisions about what The Ronin are going to become.
Just.. from what i have learned in all games so far admins are rarely listen to common folk, especially in cases like this one when in-game activity is concerned.

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Offline AndrzejB
12-14-2011, 02:20 PM,
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' Wrote:Alliance with Gaians... hmm no clear point here.... we do not support bretonia... and do not hunt them.. why would gaians be against us and not friendly as it was in .85?
Wait. Who does not support Bretonia?

' Wrote:Sorry but OC presence in newcastle not that big...
You will be using the same jumphole. Very often.

' Wrote:Guerilla fighters? in kusari? did you read zelot post at all?
Yes, I did. Why won't they secretly operate from Kusari space? (Which does not exclude presence in Bretonia) Attacking from Kusari space makes sense, political and tactical. E.g. it undermines the credibility of the new government ine the relations with Gallia.

' Wrote:Bretnoia arresting officers? what would be better for them 70k of their fighters + 5k from remaining knf.... or 65k after battle with that remaining forces?
Did you read the storyline and my post? Bretonia has surplus of trained pilots but shortage of fighters. They have enough men to use the Kusarian craft. You know, a guy lands on BAF base for maintaince and suddenly is arrested.

Feel free to PM me regarding any grammar/spelling/other language mistakes I have made in my posts.
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Offline Jinx
12-14-2011, 02:21 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-14-2011, 02:23 PM by Jinx.)
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Quote:
Quote:especially - those forces that are now left behind in kusari - which are loyal to the new goverment - would consider the exiles to be a threat. - possibly even hunt them down.
I really like this one... how can they hunt them down.. if they do not meet them? + from the story... soldiers were eager to return and rescue all those who were trapped.

from what i gathered from the dev chat:

- the issue of exiles is not that they cannot go home in terms of "no way home" but rather...
- that they cannot go home cause they have not fulfilled their oath to defeat gallia ( or was it bretonia? )

that also means that - if its not a geography issue - the new KNF can meet them. - its not like there is a sudden "ancient minefield"

so i guess the new KNF could hunt them down - if the old emperor would endanger their new goverment. - after all.... in what way is the old emperor ( exiles ) different to the blood dragons ( no, not lore - but what it comes down to - installing an emperor over one that has officially been installed )


what i d like to get into is:

how was kusari goverment replaced ( there are so many ways from peaceful to violent ) - and what are the plans in the future ( imagine .... gallia gone.... what will happen to the exiles? ) - yea - i figure you may only deal with the matters at hand ... but some future prospects might need to be cleared up.

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Offline West
12-14-2011, 02:26 PM,
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' Wrote:Wait. Who does not support Bretonia?
We do not support them ye.... no clear alliance... we just cooperate with them to survive/crush GRN.
Quote: You will be using the same jumphole. Very often.
oh my.... you think that GRN from tau-31 side won't touch them?.... oc in newcastle... yeah "mighty and scarryyyyyyy enemy"
Quote: Yes, I did. Why won't they secretly operate from Kusari space? (Which does not exclude presence in Bretonia) Attacking from Kusari space makes sense, political and tactical. E.g. it undermines the credibility of the new government ine the relations with Gallia.
not for you to decide.
Quote: Did you read the storyline and my post? Bretonia has surplus of trained pilots but shortage of fighters. They have enough men to use the Kusarian craft. You know, a guy lands on BAF base for maintaince and suddenly is arrested.
ye, first arrested... maybe first 10/100 and rest will turn their guns on brets... + as I already told... there is no need for fighters/bombers/gb maintaince on bretonia shipyards.

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Offline West
12-14-2011, 02:32 PM,
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' Wrote:from what i gathered from the dev chat:

- the issue of exiles is not that they cannot go home in terms of "no way home" but rather...
- that they cannot go home cause they have not fulfilled their oath to defeat gallia ( or was it bretonia? )
I know that Jinx...but it's not that we cannot.. because we want to defeat gallia.. its because people lost faith in old emperor because of his millitarism... if he could prove that his millitaris is good... he might find support again
+ we won't be in trouble with supplies since it can still reach us but via liberty.

Quote:that also means that - if its not a geography issue - the new KNF can meet them. - its not like there is a sudden "ancient minefield"

so i guess the new KNF could hunt them down - if the old emperor would endanger their new goverment. - after all.... in what way is the old emperor ( exiles ) different to the blood dragons ( no, not lore - but what it comes down to - installing an emperor over one that has officially been installed )
KNF presence in tau-29 will be very little... where else they can meet them? old emperor is threat for new goverment.. but it's up to different roleplay interpretation.:D
Quote:what i d like to get into is:
how was kusari goverment replaced ( there are so many ways from peaceful to violent ) - and what are the plans in the future ( imagine .... gallia gone.... what will happen to the exiles? ) - yea - i figure you may only deal with the matters at hand ... but some future prospects might need to be cleared up.
yeah.... you want us to tell you final goal..... on the start of faction.... "what will happen in the end?" probably civil war... who knows.... we do not know yet.

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Offline Drider
12-14-2011, 02:35 PM,
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West, for me it seems that you are just defending decisions that already been made.

Still, some of them need to be revised a bit - better RP explanations, or different ones.

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Offline West
12-14-2011, 02:45 PM,
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' Wrote:it seems that you are just defending decisions that already been made.
some of them need to be revised a bit
Quote:point me to it pls.

If you don't like something from lore.... well, go complain to Igiss.

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Offline Agmen of Eladesor
12-14-2011, 02:47 PM,
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I really have no issues if the Ronin - or for that matter, the BAF, the KNF, or even the Council - put forth an actual bounty upon Gallic lawfuls, and post it so that the BHG| can collect upon it. Not the Core - the Core cap ships are going to be busy as hell in the Omicrons, licking their wounds after the massive fleet loss when Toledo blew up. (So no Cap ships bigger than Orca's up there.)

And yeah, I meant Gallic lawfuls, just as was mentioned earlier in this thread - the GRN, the GRP, and Gallic companies. Gallia told us to take a long walk off a short pier, and their naval forces have attacked ours (okay, it was npc's, but still...) - so they're not our friends.

This is another one of those instances where the ID doesn't quite match reality. Tough - we ain't working with the GRN, and we WILL take bounties on them. This is one war that the Guild is willing to take sides in.



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Offline Drider
12-14-2011, 02:48 PM,
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Well.. you are representative of The Ronin here and now, correct?

So let me point you to something as you asked.
Bunch of people are telling you that they dont like how your faction lore is going to be explained. Not one, not two - load of people telling the same. Why do you think that Igiss have something to do with it? Did the Igiss wrote up YOUR faction's lore?

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