The Kusari Exiles (4.86)

[Pancakes]

Alright Alright, stop the yelling gentlemen (and ladies, just in case).

As for the ZoI - I highly doubt that The Ronin will be able to get to Kusari for few simple reasons:

1) They are cut-off by the GRN forces.

2) I highly doubt that the new government that worked hard to establish democracy will accept the old emperor in open arms.

3) The Ronin's only friendly bases in Kusari will now be farmer alliance ones, that decided to remain loyal to the emperor

As for the Gaian issue:

1) Gaians will have less hostile stance with Bretonia. The GRN unlike Kusari don't have great value for nature and won't mind to crush nature in it's way.

2) The GRN kicks Gaians out of Lewis, remember that.

3) Bretonia whether liking it or not can't ignore the kusari forces that assist it in the fight. Bretonia is already very weak from the previous fight with Kusari and will (or at least should) take any help it can get.

If you have more questions please, I am here to help.

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[West]

Well.. you are representative of The Ronin here and now, correct?

Who knows:lol:

Bunch of people are telling you that they dont like how your faction lore is going to be explained. Not one, not two - load of people telling the same. Why do you think that Igiss have something to do with it? Did the Igiss wrote up YOUR faction's lore?

Bunch? 3? 4? in Igiss lore stated that ronins are vital part of bret deffence. don't like it... deal with it.
Gaians were friends in .85.... no reason to move them from there... don't like it... deal with it..... ties might fade during time.
ZOI? already told you and gave even example.
Ships? Answered.

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[AndrzejB]

We do not support them ye.... no clear alliance... we just cooperate with them to survive/crush GRN.

Isn't it an alliance? You know, cooperating to crush a common foe? Semantics aside, you will be supplied and supported by Bretonia. And by Bretonia's enemy. At the same time. How? Are the Gaians friendly toward Bretonia now? The friendship with Gaians was basen on a common foe, Bretonia. You can provide us with an adequate citation from the storyline, I couldn't find any explaining it all.

oh my.... you think that GRN from tau-31 side won't touch them?.... oc in newcastle... yeah "mighty and scarryyyyyyy enemy"

I think that GRN will touch them. Or even hit them. And you will meet them, it's inevitable. That's why I am asking. How do you expect them to react? How will you treat them? They have a base which successfully operated (with stretched supply lines) for a some time. Your guys will need bases. Any ideas come to mind now? Except idea that every feedback is evil, that is. ;-)

not for you to decide.

I know. But it would be good to know a reasoning behind it.

arrested... maybe first 10/100 and rest will turn their guns on brets... + as I already told... there is no need for fighters/bombers/gb maintaince on bretonia shipyards.

So. Your x thousands of snubcraft will be using solely Gaians' bases, you say? (Capships aside). Nice.
It isn't my intention to impose something on your faction. I'm just poining out issues that may arise. Issues which will be important in the Kusari Exiles' uneasy relation with Bretonia (see below). "Np we pew pew them all" kind of anwser won't contribute to the topic.

The Kusari Naval Forces officers were not quite unanimous about the orders to cease hostilities with Bretonia. By 818 A.S., Kusari did consider Bretonians to be formidable and respected opponents, yet the war had brought so many casualties to both sides that neither of the belligerents could think of forgetting, or forgiving, the events of four previous years. The attack of Gallia changed the situation to some extent, because now the two parties had one common foe. The Kusari Naval Forces already had to retreat to Leeds by that point, and shortly afterwards, the route through Tau-31 was completely blocked by Gallia. The cut-off Kusari forces had no other choice than to unite with the Bretonian Armed Forces and build up defences in the asteroid fields of Leeds and Newcastle.

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[Drider]

Thanks, Pancakes. Good to see an adequate response to the matter.

Still.. hostilities between old enemies cant be ceased that simple.

If i would be in BAF or Ronin - i would made loads both of ingame and forum RP about the matter. Arresting, releasing, conflicts between new "friends" - that kind of stuff.

Bunch? 3? 4? in Igiss lore stated that ronins are vital part of bret deffence. don't like it... deal with it.
Gaians were friends in .85.... no reason to move them from there... don't like it... deal with it..... ties might fade during time.
ZOI? already told you and gave even example.
Ships? Answered.

This is not how feedback is working.

Recall the good old CCCP| chaps and what they have answered to the negative feedback they had.
Dont like it? Deal with it.

Something very same i see here.

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[Pancakes]

Thanks, Pancakes. Good to see an adequate response to the matter.

Still.. hostilities between old enemies cant be ceased that simple.

If i would be in BAF or Ronin - i would made loads both of ingame and forum RP about the matter. Arresting, releasing, conflicts between new "friends" - that kind of stuff.

I can only tell you, that you have stuff to look forward to. In terms of forum and in-game RP. :cool:

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[jammi]

Alliance with Gaians... hmm no clear point here.... we do not support bretonia... and do not hunt them.. why would gaians be against us and not friendly as it was in .85?

Currently, the only reason the Gaians have good relations with the KNF is because Kusari is well supplied and funded (while the Gaians aren't), and they also fight Bretonia. The Exiles no longer fight Bretonia, and they're cut off from their supply chain to Kusari, so they're living on a shoestring budget. There is no ideological common ground between Kusari and the Gaians. I mean, Samura (and by extension the Exile loyalists) are the ones responsible for terraforming Kusari's planets! I can think of no logical reason whatsoever for the Gaians so much as considering assisting you.

Bretnoia arresting officers? what would be better for them 70k of their fighters + 5k from remaining knf.... or 65k after battle with that remaining forces?

I would hazard a guess at the 65'. Also, you cannot seriously be suggesting you have 5,000 Chimeras stashed on two battleships... In any case - there was 8 years of warfare, in Bretonia's eyes, caused by the very people they now have sat on their doorstep. The Emperor, his loyalist guards, his high command. They're all in Newcastle. The Bretonian public would want closure for all the lives Kusari had claimed - arresting the Emperor would be a PR coup in that case.

The Exiles would be a dangerous and unpredictable variable that Bretonia can't afford to have at large. The current government has signed peace treaties with Bretonia and is giving out every impression of wanting to stick to them, yes? Why on earth would Bretonia assist the previous Emperor who started the war, when he wants to retake power back in the mainland?

so i guess the new KNF could hunt them down - if the old emperor would endanger their new goverment. - after all.... in what way is the old emperor ( exiles ) different to the blood dragons ( no, not lore - but what it comes down to - installing an emperor over one that has officially been installed )
what i d like to get into is:

how was kusari goverment replaced ( there are so many ways from peaceful to violent ) - and what are the plans in the future ( imagine .... gallia gone.... what will happen to the exiles? ) - yea - i figure you may only deal with the matters at hand ... but some future prospects might need to be cleared up.

The only way I can think of the Emperor being deposed without there being a bloody revolution back home is trickery. If Kishiro had simply ended the Dynasty with the statement that 'Kogen is no longer Emperor', loyalist forces would have risen up and there would have been a civil war. So, trickery.

The Emperor is visiting the front lines. Unexpectedly, Gallia invades. The Kishiro usurpers put out a general broadcast that the Emperor has been killed during the confusion in Seto and assume control. Samura politicians and key loyalist figures are placed under arrest. At this point the new government places the blame for the war with Bretonia on the Emperor and the old government.

When Kogen attempts call home and protest his innocence and, well... alive-ness, he is denounced as an imposter and attempted usurper. In effect, this places them on the same level as the Blood Dragons. So, they can't go home because the Emperor is widely blamed for the war, and is thought by the public to be a pretender attempting to usurp the throne.

ye, first arrested... maybe first 10/100 and rest will turn their guns on brets...

Congratulations - your mere two battleships and all within have just been killed by the combined firepower of the biggest military build-up in Bretonia.

+ we won't be in trouble with supplies since it can still reach us but via liberty.
KNF presence in tau-29 will be very little... where else they can meet them? old emperor is threat for new goverment.. but it's up to different roleplay interpretation.:D

You do have a supply problem, because you're no longer members of the KNF (no annual government budget to fund you) and all the Ronin's assets back home in Kusari have been frozen. The rumours for .86 say you're living off Bretonia's credit - and getting notoriously ripped off during the process.

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[Drider]

I can only tell you, that you have stuff to look forward to. In terms of forum and in-game RP. :cool:

Well in this case there is not much to worry about.

Also about ZOI.. the whole ZOI system is thing i dont like. It should be not the "Zone where i can go and do ****" - but "Zone of interest for the faction".

First thing leads us to sanctionlancer. Do not want.

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[Pancakes]

Well in this case there is not much to worry about.

Also about ZOI.. the whole ZOI system is thing i dont like. It should be not the "Zone where i can go and do ****" - but "Zone of interest for the faction".

First thing leads us to sanctionlancer. Do not want.

There are few mistakes with the ZoI, we will fix it soon when we Zelot will be around.

Edit: Also, that shows where we can operate normally. That doesn't mean we can't go to Gamma if the circumstances justify it. For example a meeting with the corsairs about taking Kusari government back to the emperor's hands. (This is just an example I came up with, I really doubt this will really happen).

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[Drider]

Also, that shows where we can operate normally. That doesn't mean we can't go to Gamma if the circumstances justify it. For example a meeting with the corsairs about taking Kusari government back to the emperor's hands. (This is just an example I came up with, I really doubt this will really happen).

There are precedents people being sanctioned for certain actions out of ZOI. I dont like it, but well.. thats a fact. Thats an opportunity for people who may dont like you to pose an OORP complains.

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[Dashiell]

Don't pollute a topic like this dudes. Keep off topic discussions out of a feedback thread.

Don't make me Fus Ro Da all the off topic posts

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