AoM - It's not dictatorship. It's called simple lines. So everyone can understand it.
Maybe even this sounds like dictatorship, i really can't tell.
And i didn't say he should blindly obey older members, i said he should listen what they have to say.
It is completely normal for all long time members to take new factions with skepticism.
I will withdraw from this thread after this post, anyway.
Kerc - I didn't miss even 1 post in this thread. I'v read them all.
Your assumptions are not correct. You just fail to understand my point, and that's ok.
But what is not ok is you are a very "fast-trigger" person. You piss of easily, in other words.
Then you start insulting, "Idiotic critics", "You look like a fool" etc.
And that is not really a way to talk here.
For example, i have told you 2 times, and Juan told you once, to change your diplomacy towards Hogosha (BDS) to Hostile.
And you haven't done it yet. You didn't even see it.
And yet you say that you read all the critiques and ignore only ignorants.
Is that ignorant suggestion, I ask you?
Please, calm down, take a deep breath, and put effort to stay calmed.
I had only one interaction with LLJK, and it was not a good experience either.
Maybe that's why people actually don't like you?
I am going to give you one very constructive advice/suggestion.
I pretty much know how you feel, because, BSG faction was hated by most members of this community for a very long time.
And BSG is still hated by most members of this community, especially by those who are established here for a long time.
So, i know how you feel. And here is the advice, from my book of advices :
Prove them wrong.
If you do that, your faction maybe has a bright future.
But, if you continue with insults, and threats about you leaving this server, it will get you nowhere.
Believe me, very few would even care if you would leave. And it is so not only for you, but for the most people who are not established in this community yet.
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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
' Wrote:I did no such thing I've been busy doing other things and simply hadn't got around to changing it just yet, I'm sorry I'm not making hourly reports about this nor changing it the faction submission as soon as a post is made. I'm doing my best but I can devout my entire life to it, I need to sleep at some point.
I wasn't ignoring him, I have been trying to work out the idea my self so it could allow us to find a compromise, if I was ignoring him I would of told him to go away, I didn't ever do such a thing. I was simply putting it on the backburner so I can work it out amongst my men. Calm the hell down about this.
Why are you angry? You have no reason to be, I insulted you because it was pretty clear you had a problem with me personally, if you wish to leave this like men or squabble like children its up to you, I merely want to get this over and done with so we can move on and forget about this issue ever occuring.
My attitude is bad at this moment becasue I'm not in the best of moods, leave it at that. I'm doing the best I can and if that isn't enough then whats the point in yelling at me about it? It'll simply make the situation worth, calm down and allow yourself some clarity before we both say something we'll regret.
We were hated before we even made a post, don't you remember the LLJK thread? I suggest you go take a look.
Stop treating me like an idiot who has no idea how to roleplay, I've been doing it for several years now and I have a very good idea amongst it, I know it doesn't mean squat being on a new server but don't treat me like a complete fool.
For god sakes can we just take the tones down for a moment please.
I guess you don't remember the LLJK thread very well, since I posted in it. That thread wasn't about hating LLJK. It was about trying to figure out what LLJK meant, since your members wouldn't tell the rest of us. I still think that my theory about an adults-only cruise ship company, "Luxury Liners Jettisoning Kids," was the funniest answer.
Wow! You've been playing RPGs for several years now? Seven or eight? That would still make you a newbie in my experienced eyes, since I got started about 30 years ago. As for your several years of RPG experience -- it means nothing here unless you know how strict the RP is here. If Chopper and others hadn't said anything, you would've been using OORP weapons on OORP ships and gotten sanctioned within a week. If your RP has been so flawless, why was LLJK trading in New Berlin with GMG tags/IDs?
EDIT: Chopper is right -- You've still got -{BD}- Black Dragon Society (Hogosha) listed as Unfriendly when we should be listed as Hostile. I guess I'm just being "ignorant" about your perfect faction proposal.
lets give him time to include those suggestions he considers good - and work on the background / story a little - a lot of it can be explained with a nice story. ( and no, a story is no "excuse" for what you can use, a good story is the basis of what its ALL about )
once he comes up with a modified version ( cause thats the point of it ) we can work more on it - just look at the keepers, it took them a long long time to get where t hey are at the moment - and they had a lot more help and acceptance. and still people see flaws and critizise them ( with good reason often ) - but thats how it goes.
i d say - we have seen the raw version of what its about. something to build up on. once that version is worked on more, i am sure it ll explain itself. a lot of relationship issues will be cleared up "ingame" anyway or with forum roleplay posts.
this is only a suggestion to get the faction running. - it looks fine, and its hard to predict how it ll look once their members are roaming freely on the server - so its impossible to really tell if it works or not, but the structure of the faction looks fine.
I would like to know why Gcorp has a hostile stance towards the Slavers Union as I am one of the faction's leaders. The Union has never interfered with your business and I don't see that changing unless you interfere with ours.
@ Juan Arquero: Do you build up the faction or Kerc? He is building up his faction and the roleplay for.
You might have another pov, but it is not your faction.
Admins gave their blessings, also to ships and weapons. So everyone else, than admins, has absolutely no rights to claim ships or weapons oorp. Thats fact.
About BDS terms to GMG. OMG is it that important now? If you see LLJK/Gcorp ships ingame as BDS char, just attack them and you will be faster on hostile list as you can switch from game to forum.
I also have read the LLJK thread, but didn't posted, because it was a childish thread. "Hm, they don't tell me who they are, so i set them up in the forums."
Remind, it was posted in Flood and not in RP 24/7 forum. So it was just a childish revenge instead of trying to figure out seriously, who they are.
So i can understand, some of them were enraged about.
One thing i have learned. May the day come, i want to make my own faction, i would never present a proposal. I would clear things up with admins in PM's and place the faction within the community as a fait accompli.
To spoil the flame throwers day.
No, it is not that important. It is merely an example that Kerc is not really reading all the critiques.
Admins can give 3 blessings, if I see a Falcata with 4 tizonas, i will say that it is OORP. (i'm not saying that Gcorp uses falcata, only giving an example.)
As i said, all factions can call upon this and use 2 enemy guns.
And it would be RP, right?
I have nothing against them looting, i don't know, luggers or something.
But Enemy weaponry should be restricted, even if looted.
Edit :
Nice to see this.
Quote:All looted ones(They are only to be used for roleplay events only, never for personal gain for the upper hand.)
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
Unfortunately, this new "wanna be GMG" faction, seems more and more what Blunt said: YANF with some kind of RP excuse to use anything in order to WIN.
"We don't have skills as they do, so we need the biggest ships and the best weapons"
"I PWN U" attitude is the plague of RP. And this is RP server...
If admins say they can play however they wanna play, they can. We cannot stop them, but we sure don't have to LIKE IT.
I don't like it....
Loose the "I PWN U" attitude. Loose the "we fly anything/shoot anything". Loose the "tsar" (even in Rusia, admiral was in command of the fleet, while "Tsar" was in command of the nation). U might not WIN all battles, u might not even WIN one, but u'll still have more respect from the community this way.
EDIT:
"All looted ones(They are only to be used for roleplay events only, never for personal gain for the upper hand.)"
What's that supposed to mean? If u attack pirate or get attacked by one u'r gonna say: Wait i have to unmount this tizona and krakens?
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Big ups to this new faction. Ignore the haters, you have admin approval so you don't have to pay attention to them at all. Though IMO some of the people in this thread should be paid attention to, preferably in the form of a few dozen torpedoes up the tail pipe...
Some of the nit picks in this thread are stupid. I can't believe you're actually whining about what they call one of their command staff.
Re complaints about RP, go hit up the pirates first instead of beating on a bunch of newbies. There's no rule saying non-pirate non-house factions have to be easy to farm.
Oh so that's it. I'l put it in the dictionary.
"Not using enemy guns - Easy to farm"
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
' Wrote:Big ups to this new faction. Ignore the haters, you have admin approval so you don't have to pay attention to them at all. Though IMO some of the people in this thread should be paid attention to, preferably in the form of a few dozen torpedoes up the tail pipe...
Some of the nit picks in this thread are stupid. I can't believe you're actually whining about what they call one of their command staff.
Re complaints about RP, go hit up the pirates first instead of beating on a bunch of newbies. There's no rule saying non-pirate non-house factions have to be easy to farm.
What's the point of "public faction proposal" like this one I they can just ignore it? If admins are the only ones to ask, then, by all means...go play however u like it....but why bother us with this proposal?
There's a rule saying: go PRACTICE get skills than come to PWN ALL. Not make excuses to use any and every means necessary in order to win over someone who is better than yourself.
How come is someone who doesn't immediately agree with all you have to say a hater?
And u should "check" ur attitude mate...someone could CD those torpedoes u mentioned, so the blast would cook your ass.....
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