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How Gallia developed/stolen their own Lanes and Gates?

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How Gallia developed/stolen their own Lanes and Gates?
Offline teschy
01-10-2012, 09:35 PM,
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' Wrote:The Junkers smuggled Ageira's gate and lane equipment into Gallia, where the Gallic scientists reverse-engineered it and copied the technology.

Many lives were lost in the process.
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Offline Dab
01-10-2012, 09:40 PM,
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' Wrote:Better answer me how Ageira managed to keep Trade Lane/ Jumpgate secret for centuries.

HOW??!!!! What, in those centuries noone was able to develop/reverse engineer alternative? even with worse stats.

Noone was able to bribe, capture and interrogate, steal, /put your choice here/ their personnel/scientists, put a spy into production facilities FOR CENTURIES?

Are you kidding?

(well, thats more like question not to Disco, but to those who wrote freelancer lore and to quality of that lore...)
Samura is currently in the process of trying to steal that technology, but laws and trade regulations are making it a long, difficult, and expensive process.

Gallia is not bound by those laws, plus the gate/lane system development was a necessity for Gallia to grow without Sirius knowing of its existance, and received substantial government funding.

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Offline Dusty Lens
01-10-2012, 09:46 PM,
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' Wrote:Gallia stole trade lane technology through the Junkers, who bought it on Pueblo and flew it to Gallia. It really wasn't that hard, anyone can buy it.

They shot a Lane Hacker NPC ship on the way to Gallia and got a Lane Hacker who knew how to open the white box because the Lane Hackers are Ageira employees who were fired but know how to do Ageira stuff.

The Ageira Employee was then sent back in time for safe keeping in case they had any questions.

Edit: They went into the future for the Lane Hacker before anyone asks why that's possible because Lane Hackers might not have existed yet I'm not sure, I'll ask the dev people later.
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Offline Markam
01-10-2012, 09:53 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-10-2012, 09:55 PM by Markam.)
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I like the Gallic lanes, anyways.

Seem like they're a lot more sturdy. IT'd be nice if Kusari copied the design and put their house symbol on it, RP that Liberty lost its control of Kusari gate lane production, and the RP consequences/political fallout of such an event. Ageria shares taking a nose dive and the Liberty Economy going to the dogs.

Anywho, since when has logic mattered, ever? Zoners have been flying Juggernauts since forever, and still are.
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Offline Dab
01-10-2012, 09:57 PM,
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Re: Dusty's post

Igiss you troll.

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Offline Knjaz
01-10-2012, 10:03 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-10-2012, 10:07 PM by Knjaz.)
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' Wrote:Samura is currently in the process of trying to steal that technology, but laws and trade regulations are making it a long, difficult, and expensive process.

Gallia is not bound by those laws, plus the gate/lane system development was a necessity for Gallia to grow without Sirius knowing of its existance, and received substantial government funding.


You do not receive full documentation in one package. Like, Technology Stolen = False/True.
You do not even need to get yourself a piece of that technology.

Laws and trade regulations aren't that important either, anyway we're talking about the top secret tech etc. It's being done through third, fourth, fifth, sixth etc parties.

If we take modern ICBM analogue, few hundred factories/production facilities are participating in the creation of that thing (starting from special alloys etc, not talking about ore refining/screwdrives/bolts), with about 50 of them being "key ones". That means, that tens or hundred of thousands people are directly or undirectly participating in the creation of the product. All sorts of various people, with own lives, hobbies, problems, dreams, et cetera.



To succesfully "steal" tech, you do not need to steal it as a whole. You need information, hints, even the "general direction of thinking" that will help your scientists to fill the gaps they're currently struggling to overcome. Little bit here, little bit there, seemingly unimportant and unconnected pieces of information turns into pearls when you combine all of them with what you already know, theories your scientists have etc.
This is also why you have multiple teams working on same technology, because some of them might/will go the wrong way, either by own mistakes or by intentional disinformation by enemy's counter-intelligence agencies; but still sharing information on what they managed to find out. It'd be, probably, better for them not to know about the existence of each other.

Also you analyse all traffic, everything that is being carried, ordered etc by Ageira on open market, even simple alloys, the amount of them being shipped into the facility, etc. It's like, some important bit of information can be found anywhere. Often even in a bar. :)

Of course such active intelligence measures will attract attention of counter-intelligence structures, and will require significant amount of resources dedicated to it. But when we're talking about smth as important as TL's or JGs...

Just my 2 cents)
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Offline Jeremy Hunter
01-10-2012, 10:34 PM,
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' Wrote:Igiss. Try not to think about it, it doesn't make sense. Plus if Echo 7-7 sees this thread, he'll burst an artery.
* Jeremy Hunter goes to show Max

' Wrote:They stole it from Liberty.
:lol:

No, Gallia just made thier own. They just did. Just like that.

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Offline Dab
01-10-2012, 10:45 PM,
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No, the actual lore is that the Junkers did steal quite a lot of parts and over the years, delivered them to Gallia, which over the years, reverse-engineered them.

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Offline dodike
01-10-2012, 10:53 PM,
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' Wrote:No, the actual lore is that the Junkers did steal quite a lot of parts and over the years, delivered them to Gallia, which over the years, reverse-engineered them.
With bit of a help of the Lane Hacker from the future. [Image: emoticon-00133-wait.gif]
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Offline Soban
01-10-2012, 11:01 PM,
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You know steal a tech is never impossible. CCCP had stolen the Atom bomb to the US with good spy.

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