Closed Factions IDs= Terrorist IDs?

[Govedo13]

You should learn more about the factions you criticize.

to criticize ID's and factions, first you should familiarize yourself with the ID's and factions you are out to criticize.

I assure you if I caught any SCRA Members destroying Traders, Civilians, Miners, ect, I would kick their behinds out of the faction without hesitation.

Just because we can doesn't mean we will.

If you you can really go out of your hypocrite little box and look at the facts in game....
I would say remove the Zoner house docking restrictions and believe they wont dock in house space.
It is just as possible as any reasonable to believe you.
But it is NP, you have no idea how funny you are in fact, you will grow up one day like everyone else,meanwhile I hope that the admins will fix the IDs.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[schlurbi]

How can someone compare all Zoners to a Faction?

While I'm at it: You make it sound like the Leffhire Gelion is attacking everyone that moves through Liberty. Getting everything mixed up. Also, how come you only cry about these IDs, there are a few you're missing out, IDs that have less Restrictions who they can shoot and where they can operate.

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"Who is it doing this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin'?"

[Zelot]

How can someone compare all Zoners to a Faction?

Zoner = NPC faction HF=NPC faction CR= NPC faction SCRA=NPC faction ROS= NPC faction

thats how.

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[Switchback]

This thread is lol. In roleplay, everone wants to be "special" in some way shape or form. If you cant get over that fact, then leave.

Just so everyone knows, the Unioner ID is an closed faction ID. It's why there are no indies, don't try to make any yourselves or we'll devour you into the official faction.

Challenge <strike>Accepted.</strike> Considered. Im lazy.

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Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts... perhaps the fear of a loss of power.

[Charos]

Zoner = NPC faction HF=NPC faction CR= NPC faction SCRA=NPC faction ROS= NPC faction

thats how.

Well played sir.

[Zelot]

This thread is lol. In roleplay, everone wants to be "special" in some way shape or form. If you cant get over that fact, then leave.

Well I do think, either there should be a path for everyone to try and experience some of that specialness or no one should at all. Fair is fair.

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[blubba]

Sure, we can simply destroy people's ships, but we're not here to ruin anyone's fun. We always give people a chance to surrender. Even our worst enemies, of course 99% of the time people refuse but that's hardly our fault.

And while our ID may say we can shoot pretty much anything, I assure you if I caught any SCRA Members destroying Traders, Civilians, Miners, ect, I would kick their behinds out of the faction without hesitation.

Well that will make a refreshing change.

Anyway, back to the thread....
As I understand it, are you (Govedo) pointing out issues with ID's or issues with factions and the way they are RP'd?
It started out, I thought as issues with particular ID's, giving examples which seems to have been derailed into a slanging match by what appear to be some determined persons.

Is it that you are suggesting that these particular ID's should be closer to reflecting the factions current RP stance, rather than giving them so much scope for possible metagaming at a later date?

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[Ursus]

rights and zoi should have inverse proportion; absolute freedom should have a zoi of one system, then you can RP freely with whoever is dumb enough to wander into a space where they can be RP'd at by you

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Discovery 24/7 Negotiating Tactics:

[Ursus]

You make it sound like the Leffhire Gelion is attacking everyone that moves through Liberty.

don't be silly, they only attack half the population. alliance with VR is responsible for the other half

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Discovery 24/7 Negotiating Tactics:

[Dusty Lens]

After some consideration I've decided that the OP is correct. The ability to demand contraband on the SCRA ID is way too open ended. As such this ID will be brought closer in line with a publicly accessible generic ID, such as the pirate ID, which may demand any cargo or credits anywhere. As such the SCRA will ONLY request cargo or credits. However as the SCRA is not a pirate faction I'm stripping them of the right to demand credits. Furthermore, as they're not pirates but a military controlled by a government the right to simply demand cargo is being removed and replaced with the right to enforce the People's Coalition Government's decree of controlled substances by demanding ships ferrying the same to relinquish said goods from their holds.

I'll think of a better way to write that later.

Edit: Less sarcasm, the SCRA hasn't been mass jailed and threatened with being disbanded because they haven't effed up. If they do their ID will be admin ganked and the faction likely opened. Love and hope.

The HF are just the HF.