' Wrote:The SCRA is a terrorist organization that murders the armed forces of various nations (except the BAF for some reason) in order to broker political change at gunpoint. They're the HF on an international scale. Additionally they routinely kill their own citizenry for giggles, for speaking up or littering the walkway of their recruitment drives.
Furthermore it's hardly been but a few months since the leadership of the same initiated a course of action with the end objective of enslaving the total near entirety of the military and civilian populace via "nerve stapling".
Corsairs have less than they need and are looking to take more. There's a modicum of empathy one can extend that way.
The SCRA is looking to secure power by force of violence and unethical enslavement, engages in hypocrisy at every turn and supports the leadership of madmen who would have them shed their humanity in the pursuit of a centuries old agenda.
' Wrote:The SCRA is a terrorist organization that murders the armed forces of various nations (except the BAF for some reason) in order to broker political change at gunpoint. They're the HF on an international scale. Additionally they routinely kill their own citizenry for giggles, for speaking up or littering the walkway of their recruitment drives.
Furthermore it's hardly been but a few months since the leadership of the same initiated a course of action with the end objective of enslaving the total near entirety of the military and civilian populace via "nerve stapling".
Corsairs have less than they need and are looking to take more. There's a modicum of empathy one can extend that way.
The SCRA is looking to secure power by force of violence and unethical enslavement, engages in hypocrisy at every turn and supports the leadership of madmen who would have them shed their humanity in the pursuit of a centuries old agenda.
Who's morally supporting what?
*cough* ... you still get some people who do not really understand this within the faction itself. Yet I wouldn't speak out like this because such stuff can be taken, I don't know, as an offence against a said faction? But yeah well constructed post. I admire your effort.
However, the concept of "murdering" another member of the armed forces isnt actually true. I define murder as taking a life from a person with no ability to defend themselves - for instance, sticking a knife into a mans neck while he sleeps. Or kidnapping him, tying to a chair, and then executing.
I dont consider an RM in a Wraith to be defenseless. And certainly not against me, who has never been considerably skilled in pvp.
Honestly, I can eaily turn the argument around and say that the reavers murder anyone, including house militaries, as long as there paid to do it. truth being, the reavers delight in that.
In any case, I'm not trying to make a case of the SCRA beng more moral then the corsairs - and if your trying to turn my morals around on me by saying the SCRA is more morally bankrupt then the corsairs - maybe your right.
Anyway - i'm done with this thread. Thanks for the discussion.
' Wrote:I can understand it, but morally I cant support it - The memory of taking a persons life, who might have otherwise been a good friend had circumstances been different, knowing that i caused heartbreak for his family, friends, etc - well, that kinda blood I wouldn't be able to live with on my conscience - I'm just not...i dunno, selfish enough, i guess? to put my needs and my families needs over another persons needs.
' Wrote:The concept of "murdering" another member of the armed forces isnt actually true. I define murder as taking a life from a person with no ability to defend themselves.
You know fine well the position that RoS is in, has absolutely nothing to do with me or Joe. Joe was told by the admin folks he has no say in this what so ever. And i as a dev have absolutely no sway in who gets an ID and who doesnt, quite frankly if it was me trying to get the ID i would just be shot down in flames.
While it may be true that the fancy **** we have. weapons, system etc is because of me. Frankly cause i ****ing made it all and busted my god damn balls doing it. There is no other faction "Elite faction" or no "Elite Faction" who cannot do the same.
So honestly jump off a cliff or something. Stop talking ****.
' Wrote:The SCRA is a terrorist organization that murders the armed forces of various nations (except the BAF for some reason) in order to broker political change at gunpoint. They're the HF on an international scale. Additionally they routinely kill their own citizenry for giggles, for speaking up or littering the walkway of their recruitment drives.
Furthermore it's hardly been but a few months since the leadership of the same initiated a course of action with the end objective of enslaving the total near entirety of the military and civilian populace via "nerve stapling".
Corsairs have less than they need and are looking to take more. There's a modicum of empathy one can extend that way.
The SCRA is looking to secure power by force of violence and unethical enslavement, engages in hypocrisy at every turn and supports the leadership of madmen who would have them shed their humanity in the pursuit of a centuries old agenda.
Who's morally supporting what?
This ^^^
A Corsair asks first and kills if he doesn't get to put some food in his baby's mouth while the SCRA kills for sport (or because they don't like the corsairs). You really don't see anything wrong there?
Dane, just because you didn't understand me the first time I'll say it again: we don't want to rule anything and we never "invaded" anything, it's the other way around. SCRA wants to rule a Communist Sirius and SCRA is running all over the place killing people. All we want is a normal society, economy and life. We have been deprived from all the luxuries of the other houses, like food, water, technology and stuff like that and we're fighting for our people, all of them.
The Corrupt Elders propaganda makes no sense since there are absolutely no indications of them stealing other people's stuff. In fact, both Sails and Benitez Elders are often seen in the field, fighting and pirating for their nation while they could be getting fat in the Council Chambers.
' Wrote:The Corrupt Elders propaganda makes no sense since there are absolutely no indications of them stealing other people's stuff. In fact, both Sails and Benitez Elders are often seen in the field, fighting and pirating for their nation while they could be getting fat in the Council Chambers.
Indeed. The vast majority of Creteans depend entirely on the Elders and the the groups they lead to bring in food and credits/cargo to trade with the Zoners/Samura/IND.
And the Elders aren't exactly politicians. With the exception of Don Benitez (head of a smuggling cartel), they are all grizzled elder warriors who've led their men on the battlefield to countless victories and defeats.
The Council chambers on Crete may be grand and eloquent buildings, but i doubt you will find anyone there stuffing their face with the finest food and tossing scraps to huddling masses.
gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|
Corsairs sux. They are the only one NPC group with 3 official factions and there are no problems between all 3. Together with this they are the only NPC faction in Discovery mod that can have 30 ships on-line at the same time, while nobody of them feels special and all have fun doing their stuff. Thats why as punishement they got their Hull-busters nerfed in 4,86, their shield busters nerfed, and one of their BS nerfed, corsair bomber get nerfed even in 4.85.
Such a nubs really- bad skype friendships as it seems.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
' Wrote:Corsairs sux. They are the only one NPC group with 3 official factions and there are no problems between all 3. Together with this they are the only NPC faction in Discovery mod that can have 30 ships on-line at the same time, while nobody of them feels special and all have fun doing their stuff. Thats why as punishement they got their Hull-busters nerfed in 4,86, their shield busters nerfed, and one of their BS nerfed, corsair bomber get nerfed even in 4.85.
Such a nubs really- bad skype friendships as it seems.
Tizzies really were pretty epic in 4.85 tbh.
But it is really weird that you don't see any Corsairs clamoring for other ppl's tech.
As far as i know, I'm the only one in the entire playerbase who flys a claymore, and i've never seen any Hog or FA tech outside of McNeo's one fighter.
gone four years, first day back: Zoners still getting shot in Theta :|
' Wrote:Tizzies really were pretty epic in 4.85 tbh.
But it is really weird that you don't see any Corsairs clamoring for other ppl's tech.
As far as i know, I'm the only one in the entire playerbase who flys a claymore, and i've never seen any Hog or FA tech outside of McNeo's one fighter.
That's not because our stuff is good but because of our RP.
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