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Offline Sarawr!?
01-15-2012, 10:26 AM,
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I suppose we're just lucky that game studios like Bethesda Softworks and Rockstar Games are too big to be bought, and still make good games xD

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Offline ophidian
01-15-2012, 05:37 PM,
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Some notes about these things;

- Ubisoft's DRM is one-time check because they tried to adapt constant connection DRM and they got lots of negative feedback due to all kinds of issues, near to the humiliating aspect. Besides, their "great way to protect ourselves" DRM got cracked in about 8 days.

- Completely agree about EA f.ing up Westwood and anything Command and Conquer. They also f.ed up other studios in the past. Origin (turned into an abomination), Maxis, Bullfrog, now BioWare.

- Dragon Age: Origins was almost complete when EA acquired BioWare, that is why the game is somewhat playable. You can already see the effects of EA on that game like the NPCs trying to sell you DLC content while you are trying to emerge yourself into a RPG world.

- The Old Republic, BioWare's first "full EA integrated" game is a WoW clone with some candy elements. Nothing new, nothing innovative, simple copy cat. BioWare was the company to carry the tabletop RPG to our desktops in all its glory as a first back with Baldur's Gate. They were the ones to create innovative RPGs. Now they copy because it is a safe bet. It is not a terrible game, there are nice aspects, but the overall rating is... meh (not only my view, a general opinion).

- BioWare's new marketing strategy is terrible. Have you seen the new "collectors" packages they are selling? Cheap and awful tricks. I am not against people making money over what they create. I am against gaming companies being run by 3-piece suit penguins.

- Indie gaming will continue to rise. The only downfall at the moment is that bundle idea becoming too risky. They may over-do it and reduce the *value* of the games they are adding.

Gaming industry, especially EA since mid 90's, doing the exact same stupid, moronic, no-brains / no-iq mistakes that the music industry did.

Well, history repeats itself.

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Offline Sarawr!?
01-15-2012, 06:00 PM,
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I just really do hope this is the end of Mass Effect as was intended by Bioware....

A couple months ago though, I heard rumors that Mass Effect 3 would be the end of Shepard's story, but not the end of Mass Effect, supposedly this is something that Casey Hudson said in an interview but...at least as of right now that seems to have become something false. Which is good.

I mean, how can they continue Mass Effect without Shepard?

Unless y'know, a Mass Effect MMO, or a Mass Effect Movie, sure.

But you can't possibly try, or think it's a good idea to have anymore than three ME games, and without Shepard after the third?...what.

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Offline Reverend Del
01-15-2012, 06:11 PM,
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If there's even a glimmer of something to milk out of the series, you can bet your arse that EA will milk it. I'll be mighty peeved should EA completely screw the pooch with ME3, and I'm not at all convinced they won't.

I'll be buying it, but Bioware lost me at DA:II. That game was rubbish.


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Offline Leo
01-15-2012, 06:44 PM,
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After SW:TOR and the immense let down it was for me (got bored at level 40 on damn near every class on the Sith Empire side) I don't think I'll be going back to Bioware. That's a really sad day for me because I've always been somewhat of a Bioware fanboy since the days of Baldur's Gate...but after seeing DA:II and SW:TOR...I'm not so sure anymore.

I find it rather funny in the interviews with Bioware how they say that EA had no hand in Old Republic when it's clearly seen that they were. The only thing missing is the damned ugly EA logo getting thrown up every time a cinematic occurs. The EA symbol to me is like some stupid gang sign.

I'm sad to say that I'm going to be turning away from Bioware unless end game raiding (Operations) on SW:TOR are tolerable. If not...well...there's always Guild Wars 2 in a few months and Freelancer on the side.

As for ME3...EA better not screw the pooch on this one. If they do I'm 99.99% (Hell, I'll even say 100%) sure that the fans are going to be so pissed off that I doubt anyone will go back to Bioware again.

~Leo

P.S. Look at what Micros*** did to Freelancer and Digital Anvil. Same principle, same outcome. At least Freelancer is easily moddable (which I'm pretty sure was done by the original creators on purpose so that the game could survive after Microsoft's hack and slash, but that's another story all together.)

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Offline r3vange
01-15-2012, 07:00 PM,
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' Wrote:Hrm...after reading the newest issue of Game Informer today, I gleaned some stuff from the article there, and I was also reminded of the "Official Femshep competition" Which devolved into a pointless and semi-demeaning beauty contest.

They took the idea of FemShep being an awesome Space Commander who you'd follow into battle but who was still pretty enough to be all RAWR GIRL POWER <3, and turned her into a friggen SPACE COMMANDO BARBIE.

She's supposed to be thirty, yet BioWare's official female Shepard looks like a 22 year old playboy model, thanks to EA insisting that ME3 pander to a 'wider audience' and bring in a 'new demographic'.

This can also be seen in the addition of Multiplayer to Mass Effect, as well as three different ways to play the game.

Story Mode - Dumbs down the combat AI and focuses solely on the story aspects and choices the player can make in the game.

Action Mode - Amps up the combat AI and completely eliminates player choice from the story of the game.

Roleplay Mode - Enemy AI on 'Normal' with player choice still completely available and unhindered. (Only there because they'd lose their entire -loyal- fanbase if it wasn't there, imho.)

They're trying to bring in all the kiddies and casuals. (No offense to any younger people who may be here)

And what better way to do that than the addition of 'COD STYLE' Multiplayer and a sexy blond barbiedoll as the female face of the series?

GG EA Games. Thanks for Hijacking an awesome series and turning it into this. Thankfully the original team still works on ME though.

Like I said in my initial post - I won't be playing anymore BioWare games after ME3, unless they miraculously get out from under EA Games. EA games is fine when they work on their own projects, but when they chew up small studios and churn out new games bearing their project names to the point where there's just no more money to be made, it's not cool.

DA: Origins for example, was good, DA II, was not. Another, earlier example was when EA Games bought out Westwood Studios, the studio behind the Command & Conquer series. Every C&C after RA2 (Which was released after the EA buyout) has been complete streamlined crap.

Mass Effect 1 was Awesome, Mass Effect 2 was good, (Despite the removal of the former Lead Writer), We'll see how ME3 fares, I honestly hope it's the end of the ME series as was originally intended. And additionally, thank God we'll still be able to change how our characters look. I'm not playing some Playboy Shepard who looks like she should be taking orders from ME.

*Shrugs* I dunno if any of that really makes sense to you guys buuut yeah.


Nobody's taking away my red head, ugly as <bad word for copulation>, full renegade female shepard. Why? Because I've spend 2 games buidling her into the speeesh mahreen she is.

But then again hope dies last...After all Nibiru can come close enough so Bioware give the game to CDProject Red...

Also as a small bonus for my trust in Bioware I have to say that the team working on ME3 has nothing to do with the team who made that abomination Dragon Age 2

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Offline Sarawr!?
01-16-2012, 07:45 AM,
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' Wrote:If there's even a glimmer of something to milk out of the series, you can bet your arse that EA will milk it. I'll be mighty peeved should EA completely screw the pooch with ME3, and I'm not at all convinced they won't.

I'll be buying it, but Bioware lost me at DA:II. That game was rubbish.


You said it.

Even if they make another ME game after ME3, I'm done with them, unless it's a Mass Effect MMO...but that's only because I've wanted to see something like that since ME 1...

And if there's a Mass Effect movie, I'll watch it.

But if there's a Mass Effect 4? nothx.

I honestly don't see how they could make another ME game either, I mean Casey Hudson continues to tout it as the end of ends, the finale, the grand finish, etc etc.

I mean, the whole premise of Mass Effect was OMG REAPERS WE MUST UNITE GALAXY AND SURVIVE. Soooo, yeah, hopefully they don't try to make more ME games after this one.

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Offline Rashid
01-16-2012, 07:55 AM,
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I don't really think it will be the Mass Effect we all know and love if they were to make it an MMO. Who knows though, it could be fun.
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Offline Sarawr!?
01-16-2012, 07:57 AM,
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Of course it wouldn't be the one we all know and love, but to be able to screw around in the universe of Mass Effect would be pretty awesome. I'm thinking something with space action and planet/station action.

Not unlike SW:G...

But of course, that's all just a wonderful pipe dream...I'm still waiting on an FL ME mod *fingers crossed* xD

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Offline Alley
01-16-2012, 10:36 AM,
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