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Dane Summers · 08-01-2012, 03:15 PM,

' Wrote:No. Again you didn't listen. Back when there was that chat we were in and everything was cool, we put down some general things. You stated CR would never bring anything larger than a GB into Gallia. I've seen a cruiser in Gallia. After one of the raids, we had that discussion about you not going into the heart of Gallia as it was a bit OORP. Going into Lang and maybe Dauphine was alright. You've gone into Burgundy and IDF, possibly more.

Our combat ships have never gone past dauphine, once we made that rule. Our transports, being smugglers, have gone to Maine, notably, to smuggle out refugee's from Evron - giving you and even greater opportunity to role play police - just like you asked us to do. In fact, in skype, we decided to make gallia raids a "thing" because you ASKED us too. You wanted the activity, and we needed it - win win, yeah? Then how come everytime CR wins, I get yelled at by at least two or three people in skype afterward - and everytime we lose, its all laughs and backslaps. One time you brought a valor to a snub brawl, and I was all smiles, even though my 2iC was anything but.
As for the cruiser - one time we brought one in, yes, because a member had just built one, and since this was after the "coronado incident" where you cussed at length about me and my faction - I didn't really see as to holding to that rule, considering such high regard you held me, and my guys in. Since then, we've barely entered gallia, since everytime we do, its always the same guy who shows up, and since I can only see using numbers to make up the skill handicap - something im opposed to doing - we just dont show up anymore.

' Wrote:And that one pilot. Yes, he is good. Yes, he wrecks stuff. He doesn't however cry gank, and never has. If anything, he has flown almost solo and has taken on more than just 1v1 or 1v2. Don't call him out on stuff.

I have skype quotes saying otherwise. We raided gallia once with three nyxs, a newbie pytho, a gunboat, and that cruiser which never got past langue. I made sure before the battle even started to give clear orders to my guys - both in group and in local - that only one nyx would engage him, and the rest would stay back - once he killed the newbie pytho who wasnt even engaging, i ordered a gunboat in - the rest of us stayed out. His response was a flippant skype quote about "6v1 - seems fair"

' Wrote:And I've never said anything about a gank. GRP has never said anything bad about ganking nor do we care for that concept. Space is dangerous.

Good for you. Whenever my guys are even perceived to have ganked, I get chewed out in skype, and lose friends, usually with no one believing my side of the story - yet for GRP "lol we dont care, space is dangerous dude"

Cool buddy.

' Wrote:And with the Reaver thing. Sure, I was pissed off. But really it was more of a slap on my face than anything. I don't mind that it was an indie. The whole situation is moot, so don't bring that up. I don't care about it.

Without using the troll meaning of the phrase - you did, and still do, seem pretty mad about it. In a post above you said "That crap in coronado" - I don't mind that your angry - you have a right to be - what bothers me is that you, and my friends, don't trust me that I didn't set it up, that what happened wasn't on purpose. I can post you skype quotes from that night - there wasn't even a post in our emergency channel. But whatever - the people involved are perfectly content to blacklist me for something that wasn't even my fault.

' Wrote:And that's cool about the TAZ. Didn't hear the full story on that, only the snips and bits from some skype conversations about it. I take that back.

No worries

Miaou · 08-01-2012, 06:35 PM,

Stop being dense. First off, no. That one member of mine didn't say anything but, and I quote;

":/
1 v 6
np"

Which isn't complaining about the gank, it's him saying he could take it on anyways.

And I believe the valor thing was explained. We didn't tell it to come, and when it did I personally told it to not engage. You know this. Stop pulling bullcrap out of your hat.

Yes, I agreed on raids. I did not "ask" you to raid. You were the first one to mention CR coming into Gallia and I thought it was a swell idea.

And for the last time, I don't give a flying damn about the Coronado thing. Yes, I was angry afterwards, but I got over it once I figured out what happened. Stop bringing that up like some lame excuse.

I don't mind if you come into Gallia. There isn't anything I can do to stop you. But trust me, I'll log each time to defend Gallia as my faction does. I've given CR chances for 1v1 duels, I give that to everyone. It's Gallic Law. If they win, they get off free. They lose? They die.

And no, I don't listen to pity parties. Stop trying to make people feel sorry for you.

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Silver · 08-01-2012, 06:45 PM,

' Wrote:I have the entirety of the Reavers

Hm?

[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:12:00] Traxit: this is smut stop

Dane Summers · 08-01-2012, 11:43 PM,

' Wrote:And I believe the valor thing was explained. We didn't tell it to come, and when it did I personally told it to not engage. You know this. Stop pulling bullcrap out of your hat.

I believe the coronado thing was explained - two of us showed up, then the indies did while we were fighting - i ordered them out, but they didn't listen.

If you don't believe that, then why should I believe the valor wasn't their at your call? Mr "GRP never said anything bad about ganking"

' Wrote:There isn't anything I can do to stop you.

Yes there is - you can ask us not too.

Zelot · (This post was last modified: 08-01-2012, 11:58 PM by Zelot.)

Ok kiddies, lets stop acting like this is some bad teen breakup. Either work together for the fun of your factions, or don't. Keep your ships away from each other or don't. There is nothing to say faction leaders have to organize things with the leaders of the factions they fight. Bad in the back old days, we never did. That said, it seems to work out better if they do. Now, you can work together or not, fight or not, but for the love of god, stop arguing about it here.

Miaou · 08-01-2012, 11:57 PM,

The valor wasn't GRP at all. It was a GRN. Jeremy even said it was the members fault and we told it to go away.

And no, you have proven whatever I say is just going to be ignored. Half of your members hate Gallia or the members and won't listen. I've stated I will simply not work with the CR until you guys shapen up and act like the offical faction you want to be. Sure, I dislike how your CR faction works, but tough luck to both of us. I can't do anything about it and you actually bring activity to Gallia which is awesome.

But just because I dislike how your faction operates doesn't mean squat. That's what, one person out of how many in Disco? Think of how many people HATE Gallia, which I have to deal with. I don't have sympathy for your situation. You chose a hard faction with a lot of bad blood and perhaps dick around too much. That's how I see it, that's my feedback.

Edit: @Zelot- These are places where we can comment on a faction which is supposed to be getting feedback, and I'm giving my feedback. Not to mention a comment was made about me and my faction which I found wrong. With this last statement, I believe I've said all I have to though.

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Zelot · 08-02-2012, 12:04 AM,

' Wrote:Edit: @Zelot- These are places where we can comment on a faction which is supposed to be getting feedback, and I'm giving my feedback. Not to mention a comment was made about me and my faction which I found wrong. With this last statement, I believe I've said all I have to though.

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2) Abuse of faction rights, i.e. the exercise of power for its own sake without sufficient justification.
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Miaou · 08-02-2012, 12:29 AM,

That's in another board not even connected to this one, so I didn't see it. Still, I was defending my faction and it may of gotten out of hand. For that, I'm sorry. My feedback still stands one way or another.

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Jeremy Hunter · 08-02-2012, 01:04 AM,

' Wrote:The valor wasn't GRP at all. It was a GRN. Jeremy even said it was the members fault and we told it to go away.

It actually was my fault for telling the Valor to scramble, but the person flying it did not deliberately enter until he was fired upon.

So, blame for that actually falls on me, not GRP. The member engaging said he was fired upon, and I honestly believe him. So, please, if any blame is to be put towards the Valor, aim it at me for saying log what you can.

May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

Lunaphase · 08-02-2012, 01:05 AM,

Im Gonna go ahead and jump in here. The valor in the case mentioned was me, if your talking about that furball awhile back in auvergine where a valor showed?

He did not call anything. GRN got a call to scramble due to "ships". No further detail was passed on and seeing nothing but snubs and the fact they were asking support, made me think there was a capital. I showed up but did not engage until a CR decided to start strafing the battleship, wherin i assumed that the CR WANTED to draw the valor into the fight.

The valor was GRN. Not GRP, not there at the GRP asking, and did not engage until it was fired upon. Using a valor as an example when it was RETURNING FIRE after being attacked seems rather moot, dane.

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