Outcast x Corsair equipment and ship balance

[Othman]

They may still get their own...

Plus, if they didn't get their own, you could always request that the Eagle be sold on Pacifica, saying that the Unioners bought/stole the design and made it themselves.

Good idea, they could have a hacked eagle at least being sold at Pacifica. What makes me insist on this is actually these buds were shipyard labourers or repairmen. I believe that they should have the knowledge to produce at least a decent vhf or hf. Don't wanna turn this thread into a Unioner propaganda though.

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[Dopamino]

@ Dopamino: You have mentioned, as soon as OC's get a GB, they should use this only. Good. Would you demonstrate this statement by forbidding the Red Catamaran within the OC's you have influence. They already have their own bomber. No need to use other equipment.

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I realized as I read this thread that while I've been out of the game, some of the guys in my squadron probably are using other ships. I'm going to ban them right now.

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[Jwnantze]

I think it the balence is a little off, but only having to do with allies. There are currently 6 powerfull allies on the outcast side. 3 of them, the GC, rogues, and Lanehackers, depend on them for cardi. The mollys and the Hessians are alllies of convienience, but we should change that to just nuetral like the corsairs and IMG are. The BD seriously dont have any reason to be allies other than they share an ally in the GC. So I would drop three allies and that ought to balence it. As for weopon nerfing, yeah the del cid line gtot nerfed. So did the Inferno. The inferno takes 3/4 of a sabre's powerbar to fire, and it only does shield damage. The mini razor is a much better fighter to fighter weapon, as it does full shield and at least half hull damage to fighters and only takes half of a sabre's power bar.

Now, AOM, Dop and I have control over ONE squad in RoS, out of THREE. We limmit our guys to outcast and red hessian ships. If you recall the Epigoni's RP, we exist to anihilate corsairs, so we work closely with the red Hessians. If you want the rest of RoS to stop using BD equipment talk to Lohingren not Dop. The reason we do is that we made a very elaborate allience with NovaPG and they gave us the blueprints of there ships.

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[RingoW]

@ Dopamino: I wouldn't go that far to ban them. I have seen OC's with Red Catamarans, but don't know their char names. I could have been more diplomatic. So i will be now. Please, if one or more of your fellows are using the Red Catamaran advise them to switch for the Falcata. Sorry for sounding sarcastic. Was not my intention.

@ McNeo: Corsair would not loose the Osiris. They can get it from Toledo and i think no one will moan about. If , you just have to point to the Corsair NPC's in Delta. Its just the place. Crete: Titan, Praetorian, Gunboat
Tripoli: Transport, Cruiser, Dreadnought. Thats for an example.

Unioner VHF? Hm, maybe some Rheinland design?

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[Othman]

Unioner VHF? Hm, maybe some Rheinland design?

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Why not? Maybe a hacked version of Wrath or something else having the feeling of Rheinland touch?

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On the uncharted lagoons of anguish, I sail with a canoe made of my sins.

[Dopamino]

@ Dopamino: I wouldn't go that far to ban them. I have seen OC's with Red Catamarans, but don't know their char names. I could have been more diplomatic. So i will be now. Please, if one or more of your fellows are using the Red Catamaran advise them to switch for the Falcata. Sorry for sounding sarcastic. Was not my intention.

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Heh, I didn't mean ban the players, I meant ban the buying of those ships in the future.

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[chopper]

Please ban them (in your way:P). I'v seen 2 OC's flying a BD recently.
One is RoS, and the other is BLS i think.
It is nonsense, Outcasts really shouldn't fly anything of BD ships, except maybe Gunboat.

I don't have a problem with shooting at Blood Dragons, i shoot at NovaPG very often.
But, i really hate to see Outcasts flying Blood Dragons.
It's even worse then when they flown Talons.
And the same thing goes for Corsairs, i'v seen at least 3 of them flying a Nephtyss.
No need to fly that one, Corsairs are proud on their ships.
Hell, Order even allied with Corsairs because they needed something like the Titan.

And just to be clear, i am not talking about independents here.
They don't concern me.
I am talking about faction members, and that is what i don't like.

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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del

[mjolnir]

We limmit our guys to outcast and red hessian ships. If you recall the Epigoni's RP, we exist to anihilate corsairs, so we work closely with the red Hessians.

*sigh*

Using allied ships is a problem.... but we allow to use Red Hessian ships... great.

Sorry that I had to spill it out but an RoS Red Hessian cruiser with 4 nomad turrets :shok:
Why would the Red Hessians give you their best and biggest ship when you have your own Destroyer? Why would they risk flying it trough half of sirius to get to you?

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[McNeo]

...which Corsairs were flying with Nepthys'...?

Which I will try to correct when I suggest this.

@AoM: I think the Osiris is going to be sold in Omicron 91 when it's finished.

@chopper: Actually, I think the Order allied with the Corsairs because they were low on manpower after the nomad war.

But on your points in general I agree. One of the most annoying things for me is when I see Outcasts facing off against Corsairs, both flying RT's. There are exceptions when there is RP for such ships, but saying to me that its a black market ship just doesn't cut it for me... because... hello... IMG?

[RingoW]

@ McNeo: Afaik Nephty's are belonging to independent Corsairs.
Osiris: My post was in connection to the ship selling location list. I have mentioned there, i don't take care about guard systems. Thats up to faction leaders.

@ Mjolnir: I guess TBH and Benitez would be happy, if OC's using RH Cruiser against them instead of OC destroyer.:laugh:

Finally I have read some threads, linked with the Keepers faction status report. Seems there was a time, all players with Nomad equipment were considered as infested and shooten on sight. Can we bring this back?

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