[C]ouncil Feedback

[Jayce]

The OC are mad because they have no more gankfleet, so they get rolled. End of.

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[Anaximander]

I think this is a weak way of taking criticism. The whole idea with a feedback thread (as I understand it) is to mitigate any differences of opinions, to the enjoyment of all.

I can't be responsible for what Outcasts did and didn't do in 4.85 - all I know is that I don't like to gank, and I don't like to be ganked, and this was one such situation taking place right now.

I never had a bad experience with Sair raids, for instance, because they do it with respect for the players on the other end, and I do think that [C] could do the same if they would man up and take a few pointers, rather than just brush it off.

That is the purpose of critique, isn't it? To learn from it and grow, rather than just go on the defensive.

Silly childish comments like the one above serve no purpose whatsoever, except from making the situation more tense.

[Pancakes]

As I said, all I've seen is crying for getting killed in Alpha. I explained why we go to Alpha, and for me it makes perfect sense as it did for other Outcasts in 4.85, and if it did back then, now it should even make more sense with the Languedoc-Orkney passage closed for Council.

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[Jayce]

Yeah. There's only two ways out of Gallia. It only makes sense to take the route with the least opposition. That being Alpha.

Between us and Sirius the other end is the entirety of the GRN, which, in lore, is stronger than any single house or nations military.

On the other end there are a bunch of old druggies in ships rather sub-par to Gallic technology, even aged and decrepit ones.

Which route would you take?

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[Ursus]

I think that raid was so stupid, no offence. Get out of here, don't waste your time on places where you shouldn't.

I would just like to say that ... oh wait, brb Monty in New York

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Discovery 24/7 Negotiating Tactics:

[Savi]

The outcast armada of ranseurs that lol NY is made of indes, not an official faction. I simply say council should use 2-3 snubs and 2-3 cruisers to siege that base. As long as it is supplied, it won't go down even with 15 redemptions. You can get the cap armada in the end to finnish of the base.

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Last raid of Discovery 4.86

Bowex S-Convoy

LSC vs Geb

[Anaximander]

Official factions tend to say that they adhere to higher standards than indies...

Ninja'd

I also want to say I am not mad, I am just frustrated that we can't display some form of mutual respect for each other as players, so we can all have fun. It's what we are here for.

[Pancakes]

The outcast armada of ranseurs that lol NY is made of indes, not an official faction. I simply say council should use 2-3 snubs and 2-3 cruisers to siege that base. As long as it is supplied, it won't go down even with 15 redemptions. You can get the cap armada in the end to finnish of the base.

We never spam Redemptions mind you, the top number of Redemptions we've taken to Alpha is 3, we usually bring 1 or 2.

A cruiser is effective vessel, we have lots of it inRP (and Redemptions too, but I wouldn't get to it since we don't like to spam battleships), fact is [C] forces are only half the people that are part of today's offensive, and if I'd order my people to bring snubs, we wouldn't have the capital ship capability to siege a base.

When you siege a base you don't bring a fighter swarm since it's in-effective (or a bomber swarm for the matter).

Also the Outcast armada was invited there by an OFFICIAL faction, and they can stay there because the OFFICIAL faction gave them a special permit. Normally Rogues don't allow OC caps to dock on their bases in Liberty.

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[Savi]

When you go in the heart of a house, you expect to get some fighter escort with you, as... well... you never know what the enemy shall bring on you.
As for the Cassani-Vespucci war, outcast ranseur support was required to counter the HF capital ships, under huge hacker/LR/outcast cover and I don't think 101st will ever come with 1 battleship in LIberty.

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Last raid of Discovery 4.86

Bowex S-Convoy

LSC vs Geb

[Dubstep]

The outcast armada of ranseurs that lol NY is made of indes, not an official faction.

That's because official Outcast factions are dead, or have you been living under a rock this past year?

Now, all I've seen here pretty much isn't even feedback, but crying and whining. You got raided, deal with it. They brought caps? Take out your own caps or log bombers. Not every raid can be to your liking so that you can win. End of.

And, if you really want fighters so bad, I'll just log my Agama and come with them next time. But then half of the Outcasts (which means 2 or 3, since they're dead because their precious Sabre got nerfed to a normal level) will log their gunboats and dreads because they wont be able to do anything to our fighters. Then you're going to come here again and complain about something else. Typical.

I also want to say I am not mad, I am just frustrated that we can't display some form of mutual respect for each other as players, so we can all have fun. It's what we are here for.

Stop making yourself look like a martyr just so that people can feel sorry for you and believe in your excuses in regard to your failure. You got rolled. Stop blaming the other side for winning. Deal with it and move on.

tl;dr:

Q_Q

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