GC accepting amneisty? WTF?

[jammi]

This was the last attempt at a Chrysanthemum faction, which was pretty awesome while it was around. Collapsed fairly quickly because leader bailed and I didn't have the inclination to run two factions. Ah well.

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[Markus_Janus]

Well like I said, I have not seen anything about a democracy so far in their lore, it might be there but can't see it yet.
About a female leader, all I see is the following.

NPC faction info from wiki.
The Golden Chrysanthemums are a terrorist organization dedicated to the overthrow of the current Kusari government and replacing it with a matriarchy that is dedicated to the good of all the people, male and female. They are especially concerned with the rights of the severely oppressed women of Kusari, and see themselves as freedom fighters in the cause for equal rights.

* [Blood Dragons] Mariko Masami/Blood Dragons (at Battleship Matsuda in Okinawa)
The Golden Chrysanthemums believe that they have the next emperor -- excuse me, empress of Kusari back in a corner of the living deck in the form of a seven-year-old Kyushu girl. They're teaching her everything she needs to know to run the country. Good luck.

* [Golden Chrysanthemums] Golden Chrysanthemums/ Reiko Saito (at Roppongi Station in New Tokyo)
We will continue our fight until a woman leads this country. I do not believe in much of the strange things they preach on Ainu, but one thing is certain. The women of Kusari must be freed of the oppressive yoke of our paternal society. Only then will Kusari move forward again.

So I do see some evidence in wanting a female to lead.

I don't see how they have lost their reason for existing.
Sure they may of thought that Kishiro taking over was a step in the right direction, bt it was a step, not the end of the journey.
Either way now they have found out that another corporation pulling the strings is just more of the same and their position is unaffected.

There may of been a couple of individuals that took the amnesty, maybe they thought they were stronger than their addiction and that this was a brave new world.
But I think for the most part they would of realised the offer for it's true worth.
A way to kill off the GC without fighting.

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[Hone]

Yeah but how many of those rumours were added in by disco?

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[Markus_Janus]

Yeah but how many of those rumours were added in by disco?

I believe both rumors are vanilla and so form the core lore about the faction.
I know for a fact that the first rumor is vanilla and believe the second is as well.
The first quote is a copy/paste from the NPC discription of the GC on disco wiki.
This means that it's validity can be questioned as all things wiki can be.
A simple check from a vanilla info (freelancer wiki) states.

The Golden Chrysanthemums are a terrorist organization seeking to overthrow the current Kusari government and institute a matriarchy.

Like I said before I have not seen any information that leads to the GC wanting a democracy and believe that this would be an addon of disco.
My best guess is that any info on democracy was added by a previous player faction.

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[ProwlerPC]

From my understanding, GC were less "die-hard" than the Dragons and were thus willing to work with the Outcasts, GMG, Bretonia and Kishiro. In the case of the latter, they much preferred them in power, but after finding that they've not made the best decisions (this rather useless amnesty for the proper members could be among them) it's back to square one.

Got the GC mixed up with BD concerning relations with GMG and maybe Kishiro. We don't let Kishiro in on our alliance with BD. But GC, at best, is viewed with a condenscending neutrality by GMG. The BD fleet on the other hand, from original vanilla lore on into Disco, is directly funded by GMG.

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[Hone]

Yeah but how many of those rumours were added in by disco?

I believe both rumors are vanilla and so form the core lore about the faction.
I know for a fact that the first rumor is vanilla and believe the second is as well.
The first quote is a copy/paste from the NPC discription of the GC on disco wiki.
This means that it's validity can be questioned as all things wiki can be.
A simple check from a vanilla info (freelancer wiki) states.

The Golden Chrysanthemums are a terrorist organization seeking to overthrow the current Kusari government and institute a matriarchy.

Like I said before I have not seen any information that leads to the GC wanting a democracy and believe that this would be an addon of disco.
My best guess is that any info on democracy was added by a previous player faction.

Wait I know the second rumour is vanilla, but how can the first be if it comes from okinawa?

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[jammi]

Wait I know the second rumour is vanilla, but how can the first be if it comes from okinawa?

I think that was originally pasted from Kyoto - Dab included some vanilla rumours in his systems to add to the atmosphere. Or lessen the workload. One or the other.

Either way, the "Empress" is directly referenced to in an original rumour on Aniu. If the One Markus quoted isn't original, it's certainly based on one that is.

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[Hone]

So GC is actually just as sexist as the guys its fighting.

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[jammi]

So GC is actually just as sexist as the guys its fighting.

Well, they're trying to replace a patriarchy with a matriarchy. So yes, they're looking for role reversal. Freelancer has very, very few pure good guys. Most of the causes have been corrupted over time, or are hypocritical and self-serving from the outset. One of the cool features about Freelancer. It's actually a sci-fi dystopian future.

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[Huhuh]

So GC is actually just as sexist as the guys its fighting.

They don't want to oppress men though (unlike the current regime that oppresses AND has a patriarch), they just want a matriarch.

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