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Offline Curios
03-06-2013, 11:45 AM,
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OMG

You're appeling to
LOGIC?

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If people can come back then they WILL do so. That's the actual logic.

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Offline monmarfori
03-06-2013, 12:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-06-2013, 12:28 PM by monmarfori.)
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Revised Wrote: If the enemy (character or characters) leave the game before two hours have passed, the player may return to the system. If the enemy then returns to the game they may request the player leave the system again until two hours have passed since the original time of death.
Perhaps, try to remove this. They abuse it just to come back.
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Offline Veygaar
03-06-2013, 12:35 PM,
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(03-06-2013, 12:27 PM)monmarfori Wrote:
Revised Wrote: If the enemy (character or characters) leave the game before two hours have passed, the player may return to the system. If the enemy then returns to the game they may request the player leave the system again until two hours have passed since the original time of death.
Perhaps, try to remove this. They abuse it just to come back.

Don't log on JUST to shoot someone :| (and subsequently log off making your appearance basically useless in a sense of any type of long term Role Play, this server is RP and PvP love Wink )

Veygaar for Admin Moderator 2013!!!
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Offline Haste
03-06-2013, 12:40 PM,
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(03-06-2013, 12:35 PM)Veygaar Wrote: Don't log on JUST to shoot someone :| (and subsequently log off making your appearance basically useless in a sense of any type of long term Role Play, this server is RP and PvP love Wink )

Yes, and because of this very reason, an adjustment to the rules to make death a little more like death by making it two hours at all times would suit the server just fine.

Fact is, sometimes you just have other things to do, but there's people screaming on an emergency channel, so you go "oh well, I have a minute" and clean up the problem. In a lot of these situations the players causing the 'emergency' are there to get a fight anyways.

Given that fact, if they lose the fight, it should have consequences whether the players that killed them stay around or not.
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Offline Veygaar
03-06-2013, 12:52 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-06-2013, 12:59 PM by Veygaar.)
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(03-06-2013, 12:40 PM)Hasteric Wrote: so you go "oh well, I have a minute" and clean up the problem.

Not anymore Wink Veygaar for Moderator 2013!!!

Veygaar for Admin Moderator 2013!!!
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Offline Knjaz
03-06-2013, 06:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-06-2013, 06:55 PM by Knjaz.)
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(03-06-2013, 12:35 PM)Veygaar Wrote: Don't log on JUST to shoot someone :| (and subsequently log off making your appearance basically useless in a sense of any type of long term Role Play, this server is RP and PvP love Wink )

And if the guys in question are from House Military, "logging in" to clear certain mining area from pirates, and returning back to where they're staging, while miners themselves do not participate in combat.


"You can call for help from House authorities, but unless they'll babysit you after they killed us (which would not happen nor in game nor in RL), you're not safe." I already see how that promotes RP environment, yeah. Can get rid of "x hour rule" altogether, and turn transports into combat vessels.
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Offline Jack_Henderson
03-06-2013, 06:56 PM,
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Where is the problem?

Tell them they cannot come back. It's in the rules.

Quote:If the enemy (character or characters) leave the game before two hours have passed, the player may return to the system. If the enemy then returns to the game they may request the player leave the system again until two hours have passed since the original time of death.

I read it that way:

You kill the pirate on your house navy ship in a move to protect e.g. mining in the system.

The pirate respawns (= "returns to the game") and you green message him: "Please do not come back to the system in the next 2 h".

Done. Zombie-Apocalypse averted.

That was easier than I thought... *burns all the Zombie Apocalypse Survival books*

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Offline indy.miner1
03-06-2013, 07:09 PM,
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(03-06-2013, 06:56 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Where is the problem?

Tell them they cannot come back. It's in the rules.

Quote:If the enemy (character or characters) leave the game before two hours have passed, the player may return to the system. If the enemy then returns to the game they may request the player leave the system again until two hours have passed since the original time of death.

I read it that way:

You kill the pirate on your house navy ship in a move to protect e.g. mining in the system.

The pirate respawns (= "returns to the game") and you green message him: "Please do not come back to the system in the next 2 h".

what if he keeps coming back in different characters because he soooo pissed he got his ass kicked, comes back in different name, we wont know?

ok, thats similar to what can already be happening, but the old rule we could query a report if we suspect it was same player and if it is then he gets slapped wrist

now, we cant do that, the new rule is about the character that got killed, not a returning player to get his revenge

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Offline Thyrzul
03-06-2013, 07:09 PM,
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This is frankly illogical to me. The scenario, where the dead does not reappear should be the default, and the PvP losers should ask to be able to return, not god damn vice versa.

Also, this:

(03-05-2013, 11:12 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: How about I made all my pilots on the forums well known about which ships of mine they fly? Will that connect the ships to the characters automatically? (Note: It is pretty easy to find though, especially that I have a link to there in my sig)

PS: Oh, also thinking about posting crew lists for my ships, just for the sake of RP, will that count too?

Still waiting for an answer here.

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Offline Ursus
03-06-2013, 08:49 PM,
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It's just unnecessarily complex. I thought we were on a kick to remove/simplify rules. Oh well I guess that was only the rules that benefited traders.

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