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Xeno ID- Difference between Demanding and Accepting credits

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Xeno ID- Difference between Demanding and Accepting credits
Offline Pavel
04-23-2013, 08:06 PM,
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I heard various opinions can Xenos pirate for money or not, opinions were differing from each other even in XA, as I remember from my times in that awesome faction, but:

- where's said / written Xenos may not demand cash?
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Offline Anaximander
04-23-2013, 08:31 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-23-2013, 08:44 PM by Anaximander.)
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On the ID. It doesn't have the usual line about piracy, but says "May demand cargo"

it also has that "may treat as combat target" line vs. foreign transports
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Offline Nutline
04-23-2013, 08:53 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-23-2013, 08:54 PM by Nutline.)
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Indeed, but it not says: "Cannot demand credits" ...
In my opinion this depends of the specific RP.
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Offline Zapp
04-23-2013, 11:01 PM,
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Demanding credits/cargo is covered in "may engage in piracy."

Xeno ID specifically says "may demand cargo."

Therefore, it means you can't demand credits, otherwise it would say you could pirate.

Now that that's clear, yes. Bribes. Donations. I seem to recall there was a brouhaha about this and Reavers a while ago. There's a difference between saying you're open to bribes and the person on the receiving end of those beautiful, beautiful particle guns offering you money to let them go. And of course, they can send you money and you can still blow them up. You're not under an obligation to let them go, then.

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Offline athum
04-24-2013, 10:12 AM,
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What about that:

XA: Do you want make small donation to XA?
Trader: no...
XA: So please drop your cargo, sir, or you will be destroyed.
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Offline lIceColon
04-24-2013, 10:15 AM,
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(04-24-2013, 10:12 AM)athum Wrote: XA: Do you want make small donation to XA?
Trader: no...
i guess yes, because you didn't specify what kind of donation. you could be *ahem* asking for bots/bats for all I know.

(04-24-2013, 10:12 AM)athum Wrote: XA: So please drop your cargo, sir, or you will be destroyed.
if you add this, then it means that you demanded credits with your first line, then definitely nope.

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Offline athum
04-24-2013, 10:22 AM,
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>>,if you add this, then it means that you demanded credits

without "so".
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Offline Evo
04-24-2013, 10:22 AM,
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(04-24-2013, 10:15 AM)lIceColon Wrote:
(04-24-2013, 10:12 AM)athum Wrote: XA: Do you want make small donation to XA?
Trader: no...
i guess yes, because you didn't specify what kind of donation. you could be *ahem* asking for bots/bats for all I know.

(04-24-2013, 10:12 AM)athum Wrote: XA: So please drop your cargo, sir, or you will be destroyed.
if you add this, then it means that you demanded credits with your first line, then definitely nope.

We never ask for credits. If you offer them, I'll take them just to laugh at you for being uninformed. Then I'll still make you drop your cargo, or kill you if you're foreign.

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Offline dodike
04-24-2013, 04:29 PM,
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This reminds me of the Reavers piracy. I would guess it's not allowed.
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Offline Anomander
04-24-2013, 05:44 PM,
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(04-24-2013, 10:12 AM)athum Wrote: What about that:

XA: Do you want make small donation to XA?
Trader: no...
XA: So please drop your cargo, sir, or you will be destroyed.
That will be basically a credit piracy - so NO.

since this - IMO could be acceptable:

XA: Drop Your cargo or you will be destroyed
Trader: aww, c'mon - be reasonable, can make a deal?
XA: I'm listening....
Trader: I will make donation to Your cause <some ammount>

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