Question regarding Lane Hackers.

[Giorgio]

As you may know, Liberty Rogues can engage foreign hostiles of Liberty along with LNS. The question is, can the LH do the same? Against RNC, for example.

[SMGSterlin]

Lane Hackers ID

Pilot carrying this ID is a member of the Lane Hackers who:

May engage in piracy.
Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within Liberty and the Independent Systems bordering Liberty. Or one system beyond a system containing a Hacker base.
Cannot ally with any military, police, or corporate players.
Cannot use any transport with more than 4,300 cargo.

Allowed ships: Fighters, Bombers, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers.

So no, you can not engage foreign enemies like the RNC with any lawful liberty force. Likewise, you can not engage domestic enemies, like the LNS, alongside foreign lawful forces, like the RNC.

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[Giorgio]

Lane Hackers ID

Pilot carrying this ID is a member of the Lane Hackers who:

May engage in piracy.
Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within Liberty and the Independent Systems bordering Liberty. Or one system beyond a system containing a Hacker base.
Cannot ally with any military, police, or corporate players.
Cannot use any transport with more than 4,300 cargo.

Allowed ships: Fighters, Bombers, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers.

So no, you can not engage foreign enemies like the RNC with any lawful liberty force. Likewise, you can not engage domestic enemies, like the LNS, alongside foreign lawful forces, like the RNC.

Liberty Rogues ID

Pilot carrying this ID is a member of the Liberty Rogues who:
May engage in piracy.
Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within Liberty and the Independent systems bordering Liberty.
Cannot ally with any military, police, or corporate players.
Cannot use any transport with more than 4,300 cargo.

Allowed ships: Fighters, Bombers, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers.

LR ID says pretty much the same, but in fact they CAN engage RNC etc along with LNS, I've seen that quite often.

[Bitjump]

Lane Hackers ID

Pilot carrying this ID is a member of the Lane Hackers who:

May engage in piracy.
Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within Liberty and the Independent Systems bordering Liberty. Or one system beyond a system containing a Hacker base.
Cannot ally with any military, police, or corporate players.
Cannot use any transport with more than 4,300 cargo.

Allowed ships: Fighters, Bombers, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers.

So no, you can not engage foreign enemies like the RNC with any lawful liberty force. Likewise, you can not engage domestic enemies, like the LNS, alongside foreign lawful forces, like the RNC.

If we're going from that line, however:

Liberty Rogues ID
Pilot carrying this ID is a member of the Liberty Rogues who:

May engage in piracy.
Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within Liberty and the Independent systems bordering Liberty.
Cannot ally with any military, police, or corporate players.
Cannot use any transport with more than 4,300 cargo.

Allowed ships: Fighters, Bombers, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers

Therefore, rogues can't either, or Lane Hackers can. I've seen a lot of players going along with "If you aren't grouped and it's very temporary, it'll wash". So, uh, it's either both can/can't, or you can under certain circumstances.

EDIT: Ninja'd.

[SMGSterlin]

LR ID says pretty much the same, but in fact they CAN engage RNC etc along with LNS, I've seen that quite often.

If you've seen it quite often, then it means people have been breaking rule 6.9 quite often.


They might do it, but it's still against the rules, according to rule 6.9 and that specific line of the ID which is underlined.

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[Veygaar]

Just don't be in the same group as them and you'll be fine. You're not joining the LNS in pewing RNC, you just so happen to be shooting the same thing as the LNS.

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[Giorgio]

LR ID says pretty much the same, but in fact they CAN engage RNC etc along with LNS, I've seen that quite often.

If you've seen it quite often, then it means people have been breaking rule 6.9 quite often.


They might do it, but it's still against the rules, according to rule 6.9 and that specific line of the ID which is underlined.

You've just misunderstood the question. It's not about allying with lawfuls (which means being in the same group), but engaging the "foreign invaders". I've seen this being done by RHA/RNC as well, no rulebreaking there.

[Echo 7-7]

Lane Hackers ID

Pilot carrying this ID is a member of the Lane Hackers who:

May engage in piracy.
Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within Liberty and the Independent Systems bordering Liberty. Or one system beyond a system containing a Hacker base.
Cannot ally with any military, police, or corporate players.
Cannot use any transport with more than 4,300 cargo.

Allowed ships: Fighters, Bombers, Freighters, Transports, Gunboats, Cruisers.

You've just misunderstood the question. It's not about allying with lawfuls (which means being in the same group), but engaging the "foreign invaders". I've seen this being done by RHA/RNC as well, no rulebreaking there.

Rheinland Military is classified as lawful by server rules. See point 2 on the LH ID.

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[jammi]

In that case, I'm pretty sure both the LNS and RNC are covered by 'Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within Liberty and the Independent systems bordering Liberty.'

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[Agmen of Eladesor]

I think the answer to this one is pretty simple: Yes.

If you want me to delve into it deeper, then it's simple - both ID's have effectively the same line in them.

Rogue:

Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within Liberty and the Independent systems bordering Liberty.

Hacker:

Can engage pirates, terrorists and lawfuls within Liberty and the Independent Systems bordering Liberty. Or one system beyond a system containing a Hacker base.

Note specifically that these two organizations are not allowed to group with the LN in fighting off a Rheinland attack, but there's nothing that prevents them from being in the same combat assisting against a Rheinland attack.

The Red Hessians DO have a clause in their ID that does allow them to group with the RM that the LR and LH don't have - which simply means that the RHA not only can work with the RM against a Liberty invasion, they can group with them as well.

Cannot ally with any military, police, or corporate players except for Rheinland lawfuls against non-Rheinland invasions.

So, no, there's been no violating of rule 6.9 UNLESS the LH or LR were in group with the LN. That's the same reasoning behind the times that the Core will work WITH the Order - we don't group, but if a Nomad shows up, we'll work together to kill the Nomad first.

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