Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF

[Karst]

*nuclear facepalm*

Summer had the password because of BPA connections to the base.....as it should be.
The BPA SHOULD have access to bases in Bretonian space.

As for everything else, see my last post. It seems like you don't get the major point here.

Edit: To make this perfectly clear, here's a quote.

This isn't poor RP, it's how player bases work at the moment.
If it were actually possible to remove a base like that by force without a week-long continuous siege, I'm sure they would have contacted the owners before that.

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[SummerMcLovin]

I don't know if the plan is to punish me directly, restore the base and/or write up some new rules for bases, I guess we'll see when the thread has ran its course.

However, the RP was brought in because we were accused right from the start of destroying it without any RP behind it. I don't hate John, and I didn't do this purely to spite him - just that the trust of him running that sort of base was also running thin on our end - it could have been a much larger problem in the future to many people's detriment. But we'll see what happens here.

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Kingdom of Bretonia
Colonial Republic
Independent Miners Guild
Ex-Admin

[dirmaster0]

I agree with Soul Reaper on this one

[Altejago]

@Bootsiuv

• You talk about oorp negative feelings yet are at the centre of a scandal that even you cannot hide.
  You're not here for the RP, you're not here for others fun. You're here like the majority of us:
  
  Too claim a stake in this cyber reality.
  
  Except you've made no friends with the people that matter and so instead fire a torrent of oorp related situations upon which you find yourself unwanted and with no one wanting to help you.
  
  The laws of each house are made abundantly clear, and yet your ignorance proves that you're not here for fun, to fit in. You're here to create a noise so your wee little ego gets some recognition. Simply put, it's got my recognition and as a result of your OORP attempts to unhinge another faction you made a target of yourself.
  
  So, to fight OORP hate here guys, there is nothing you can do in game but more about whose private member you can satisfy in order to get what you want.
  
  Take the whole of Bretonia in this instance. Run by SummerMclovin, who was less than efficient as a Lord when I needed to deal with him, if he even responded to our requests. But low and behold his friends who are all in the respective Bretonian factions associated with his projects are instantly waived past any bureaucracy. From inactive and practically useless Lord to a moderator with abilities to mess with everyones RP, this is clearly a carefully groomed position he set himself up with for the benefit of himself and his cronies.
  
  Will anyone do anything? Of course not, it works for those in power. Not you who lost your base because you were thick skulled and couldn't manage it properly, not us as a Liberty Corporation upon who Bretonia should be reliant on. But no, these guys don't give a flying rats ass about your problems unless it works in favour of their problems.
  
  So, stop your bitching. Follow the procedures so you're not left feeling bummed because you were a dick and didn't follow protocol and find that your base you believe is INRP is being punished by INRP means in an OORP fashion. Get over it, you're the admins and the moderators beaches and until you understand that and unless you start offering cyber oral to the pricks in power, you'll find you're on your own.
  

[Duvelske]

well some might dislike me for saying it, but have seen much more bases been destroyed and even REVIVED by cannon himself due to so called bugs. Which later on he told it was a mistake. so well easy to clear this out. just restore it. If you think it is unreasonable just take 500 mills from my base Freeport XXI and make the damn guy happy.

Admins must be honest themselves if they treat someone differently then another how good is the server in the end? Exactly.

also do not give summer the fault as you cannot McBlame him. inRP i think he is right, but have seen it so many times ooRP destructions.. From Admins/mods extorting a group for a base. Priorly to a distruction with such high demand for a week that well its just like a pirate, pirating a transport 50 mill or DIE. well 500 mills a week i think its a littlebit steep for a core 1 base isnt it? Which was also ooRP destroyed.

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[Savas]

...........Whoa.

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[Soul Reaper]

*nuclear facepalm*

Summer had the password because of BPA connections to the base.....as it should be.
The BPA SHOULD have access to bases in Bretonian space.

As for everything else, see my last post. It seems like you don't get the major point here.

Edit: To make this perfectly clear, here's a quote.

This isn't poor RP, it's how player bases work at the moment.
If it were actually possible to remove a base like that by force without a week-long continuous siege, I'm sure they would have contacted the owners before that.

I've already stated John's stupidity in the matter for giving the password. And considering that I was in PM with both sides while it was happening and after it happened, I'm quite sure I do get the major point.

The point I'm making is that using your enemy's password that was given to you because of misplaced trust to destroy their base, should be a definite -no-.

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[LunaticOnTheGrass]

this is clearly a carefully groomed position he set himself up with for the benefit of himself and his cronies.

Yes, and while this was only Darth Summer's test-firing of the Derp Star, the destruction of Alderaan Defense Annex would not be the first offense warranting being banned for a month. With the power of a Dark Lord of the Slomon, Darth Summer would never rest in his ceaseless pursuit to "mess with" everyone's RP! Muhahahahaaaa!

Seriously, ad-hominem rants like this one do nothing but make both sides angrier.

don't insult one another

[Karst]

The point I'm making is that using your enemy's password that was given to you because of misplaced trust to destroy their base, should be a definite -no-.

Your "enemy's" password? Well, that's the real problem, isn't it?
If you build a base in Bretonian space, the BPA shouldn't be your "enemy".
If it were, your base shouldn't exist in the first place.

The main argument I've heard about possible alternatives involve admin magic.
So does anyone really expect there'd be less QQ if oorp Admin action were taken, rather than inrp BPA action?
Please. The base was eliminated because it posed a threat to national security, as it were.
If you've got a problem with that, take it to the Bretonian government inrp, don't QQ about it oorp.

Do I need to repeat yet again how properly supplied bases are indestructible?
If there had been prior warning, chances are the BPA and BAF simply would not be able to remove the place if necessary.

Now THAT'S oorp.

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[Altejago]

I'm cool with that.

Anger gets honesty out.