Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF

[t0l]

I think that the authorities should have been warned of the base going red, so they could've gone and warned civilians before they jumped to their inevitable death.

Sorry about your base, but you really could have been smarter with this situation.

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[Jack_Henderson]

Something like that should not happen again:
=> Step 2: disarm it. Completely.

Totaly Against it. It would be dead meat asap. 3 Pirate Groups had tried to kill it they just gaved up because it had platforms i would prefer to take them 1 k away from gate to the Primary Installation and if it should be at any time again hostile to any lawful vessel or too near to gate it should be killed by admins imediatly.

What you need is:

20 k MOX
50 k BA
30 K Robos
20 k SHP

No faction in the server can even hope to attack that. Shield can be up for more than 24 hours. BS number needed kills the server and no faction ever has that in Manchester. You are perfectly safe, without any platform.

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[jonnaffen747]

24 Hours isn't that much , it can be consumed while im Sleeping I'm just every 18 hours online to supplie it while it's under fire isn't that good

[Bootsiuv]

@Bootsiuv

• You talk about oorp negative feelings yet are at the centre of a scandal that even you cannot hide.
  You're not here for the RP, you're not here for others fun. You're here like the majority of us:
  
  Too claim a stake in this cyber reality.
  
  Except you've made no friends with the people that matter and so instead fire a torrent of oorp related situations upon which you find yourself unwanted and with no one wanting to help you.
  
  The laws of each house are made abundantly clear, and yet your ignorance proves that you're not here for fun, to fit in. You're here to create a noise so your wee little ego gets some recognition. Simply put, it's got my recognition and as a result of your OORP attempts to unhinge another faction you made a target of yourself.
  
  So, to fight OORP hate here guys, there is nothing you can do in game but more about whose private member you can satisfy in order to get what you want.
  
  Take the whole of Bretonia in this instance. Run by SummerMclovin, who was less than efficient as a Lord when I needed to deal with him, if he even responded to our requests. But low and behold his friends who are all in the respective Bretonian factions associated with his projects are instantly waived past any bureaucracy. From inactive and practically useless Lord to a moderator with abilities to mess with everyones RP, this is clearly a carefully groomed position he set himself up with for the benefit of himself and his cronies.
  
  Will anyone do anything? Of course not, it works for those in power. Not you who lost your base because you were thick skulled and couldn't manage it properly, not us as a Liberty Corporation upon who Bretonia should be reliant on. But no, these guys don't give a flying rats ass about your problems unless it works in favour of their problems.
  
  So, stop your *****. Follow the procedures so you're not left feeling bummed because you were a dick and didn't follow protocol and find that your base you believe is INRP is being punished by INRP means in an OORP fashion. Get over it, you're the admins and the moderators beaches and until you understand that and unless you start offering cyber oral to the pricks in power, you'll find you're on your own.
  

Fair enough dude....

EDIT: Wait...."my oorp attempts to unhinge a faction"? Are you friggin kidding me? It was rp guy. I knew platinum didn't have anything to do with it.

I tried to handle the situation inrp if you'll notice....it was essentially ignored.

I'm done here. I really don't care that much about it anymore. It's far more of a headache than I thought it would be.

[bloogaL]

But officers! I only murdered two people! You can't send me to jail for that!

Doesn't sound right, does it? The destruction of the base was perfectly justifiable iRP.

In which world you live in?
Police would get the gunner and put him on trial.
Not destroy a base.
You do not wipe out a village (home for 800 people on a core 4 base + factories) to get a killer.

You're chopping the example in half and putting part of it back in to the original situation to suit how you want things to sound. It doesn't work like that. Now, perhaps a better course of action to take would have been removal of the platforms, given the Bretonian authorities had the password to do so. They then could have gone forward with a trial and so forth. That being said, this leaves the base owner still able to simply rebuild the platforms. There's no other way of putting it really - the base was killing civilians, removal before it did anymore damage was perfectly justifiable for the Bretonian government. If a man's just gone and murdered two people, you don't leave him out on the streets as he was. Even if take his gun away and made him promise not to do it again.

As for the murder of the 800 crew, as I understand it the crew was removed for the destruction of the base anyway.

[Jack_Henderson]

You're chopping the example in half and putting part of it back in to the original situation to suit how you want things to sound. It doesn't work like that. Now, perhaps a better course of action to take would have been removal of the platforms, given the Bretonian authorities had the password to do so. They then could have gone forward with a trial and so forth. That being said, this leaves the base owner still able to simply rebuild the platforms. There's no other way of putting it really - the base was killing civilians, removal before it did anymore damage was perfectly justifiable for the Bretonian government. If a man's just gone and murdered two people, you don't leave him out on the streets as he was. Even if take his gun away and made him promise not to do it again.

As for the murder of the 800 crew, as I understand it the crew was removed for the destruction of the base anyway.

Your interpretation of the situation is exactly as valid as mine, just yours has one grave mistake: You justify the destruction of somethinc comparable to a village (800 inhalbitans => comparable to today 300 houses + economic district) with 2 blown up ships... and in Disco people go to their pods and do not die. Wiping out something like 300 houses (even if no people get hurt) is acceptable?

You mentioned a really nice rp way yourself, much better than your suggestion and mine.
Dismantle the turrets.
Put a trial up.

And just on a side note... no. Turrets cannot be rebuilt fast. They need a shitload of stupid things.

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[Hone]

But officers! I only murdered two people! You can't send me to jail for that!

Doesn't sound right, does it? The destruction of the base was perfectly justifiable iRP.

In which world you live in?
Police would get the gunner and put him on trial.
Not destroy a base.
You do not wipe out a village (home for 800 people on a core 4 base + factories) to get a killer.

You do however wipe out a factory that is shhoting people, after taking the workers prisoner of course. Which is what happened here.

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[Jack_Henderson]

You do however wipe out a factory that is shhoting people, after taking the workers prisoner of course. Which is what happened here.

You really do? I do not think that police demolishes a building and takes all people inside prisoners. We are not "Demolition Man" style Sylvester Stallone "policemen". Funny... wow. And now I really need to go.

Have fun here.

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[jonnaffen747]

The Factory isn't Shooting People I had just experimented with my Bombers around where the platforms have to be setted and accidentaly in that moment the Bowex and later as i aborted first phase the C jumped in while this time first time i aborted becuz that bowex came then on my 2nd test Phase the [C] jumped in i had no Chance to rescue him all was too late to move anything. If i could Change this back i would but i can't what happened , happnd. I would say it should be the decision of the People who lost anything becuz of this base , they should decide what happends now with that base. But this is just my meaning ... It is not that they should now I'm just putting this into the room what i'm thinkin about this, even I know this willnot end good for me if we do so but otherwise this discussion willnot end and will just begin at 0 again tomorrow.

As you said there were 3 damaged Guys put them into 1 Skype Group with :
Admins, Me , Summer and they decide and we are talkin what we do now

Just as an Example cannon! This dont means do that so! I know you want to discuss this over the whole community so i'm goin to respect this. As i said this is just an example how we could solve this Cannon

[Xelon]

It's two different things on it being an accident,
and boasting in the Bretonia Lawful chat how fun it was to watch the ships die.

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