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Offline P1vas
06-22-2013, 03:07 PM,
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Bomber PvP as bombing or as instakilling fighters?
Evaiding measures and gunfight on bomber are exactly the same as on fighter. To efficiently hit small capital ships with a SNAC you have to learn aiming basics.

As for instakilling - hardest thing to do is catching your opponent without the shield. Most players start dodging hard when they get their shield dropped. Also, doubtully you can ever SNAC a good fighter in a duel.

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Offline Yber
06-22-2013, 05:27 PM,
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Sava, you forgot to change from your alt.

Thing is I'm absolutely terrible on bombers, I haven't been made to fire snacs. Though I'll fly them a little and see what happens.

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(06-19-2016, 12:06 PM)Mao Wrote: inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.
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Spike Seadra
06-22-2013, 07:29 PM,
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kk, we wait for your accomplishment.
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Offline Yber
06-26-2013, 11:53 AM,
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Question: Do I keep making bomber pvp videos, despite being rather bad at flying them, or do I focus on fighters? My inet can't keep a high rythm for both.

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(06-19-2016, 12:06 PM)Mao Wrote: inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.
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Offline Govedo13
06-26-2013, 03:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-26-2013, 03:39 PM by Govedo13.)
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Good work with bombers,however you do a way better in snubs. You have great positioning and evading moves combined with a quite good guns aim, but you miss a lot with snac may be you haven't adjusted to its "feeling".
I observed the videos- you just does not set "joist traps" to the fighters where your movement makes them to position themselves in joisting so you can straight snac them. Trying to keep up with the fighter turning pattern would end bad if the pilot is good and can out-turn you in fighter- he would sit on your side/back and would pound you till you die- try to fight some really good fighter pilot in bomber and you would get what I mean. Luring them in wider and softer turns with more time for joist where you have superior direct DPS is better tactic.

Also you attack a way more from side angles instead of dead center- so the snac gun is harder to aim. In 4.87 most of your snac kills wont be possible due to smaller snac arc.
On the other side you do great with EMPs, so good that you might also take 2/2 setup in order to do some additional hull damage bonus since you manage to keep the shields down quite easy most of the time- you would loose around 25% shield DPS in 2/2 setup. I saw people with similar fighting style/skill like yours in bombers to kill dodgy fighters like the jitter from the video with 2 energy guns.
I personally have a way too tragic aim for that, but I saw Zapp doing it back in the time when we played Mollys.

Other thing is that bomber snacbox quite nice via back-thrusting- you can allow yourself to take some dmg if you have full or half shield - the return is easy kill if the fighter have 10-20% shield left before the stunt you snac him at point blank. You dodge too much even if the fighter have no shield and you have full shield- the greed is the key to victory vs fighter with snac- let them think that you are nub in dodging and they become greedy to eat your shield and hull then let them feed only a bit in order to become greedy and nail them.
In general such "feeding" with the first 20-30 bots is quite ok in the open 1v1s if not in conn.

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(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

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Offline Yber
06-26-2013, 03:48 PM,
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Summing up what Govedo said:

Keep going on fighters, get the hang of bombers and then record yourself flying them.

Will do that, thank you.

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(06-19-2016, 12:06 PM)Mao Wrote: inb4 Sirius gets renamed to XTF.
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Spike Seadra
06-26-2013, 06:29 PM,
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Q.Q Govedo, you pissed off 3 people.
I was waiting for Yber's BMB bit guide since 4 days.
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