Something that is interesting is faggot can actually mean a lump of wood. Gay - happy. Bitch - female dog. Am interested to know if the filter bothers you if used ina non offensive context.
(07-07-2013, 01:57 AM)MiniStryke Wrote: Why the hell is f*gg*t a swear?
Because we're not twelve and there's no excuse to insult peoples' sexuality?
Please tell me how people these days use it to insult someone's sexuality. No one uses it in that context. It's not a swear word, that's why i'm confused.
When you use that word as an insult in the first place, you vilify the group of people it refers to. That's because in order to be insulting, it implies there to be something negative about that group - just as if I were to use race, sex or socioeconomic status. By using that word to insult somebody, you denigrate the associated group.
Even if you weren't using it as an insult against someone but in the proper sense of the word, it is derogatory because of its connotations and considered offensive to the vulnerable group. Do you know how many words we've had to go through for 'learning disability' because people kept turning them into insults?
TL;DR: Don't use it in any sense because reasons above, lazy.
Edit: This actually applies pretty well to Draconyx's post, which I also wanted to reply to. Firstly, people don't use these words literally, and even if they did, they're offensive because of the connotations and common usage.
One word can be fine and the other wrong NOT because of different meanings but because of different perceptions.
"Idiots" is a vast group of Earth's population, but using that word is fine because every idiot thinks he's not an idiot.
On the other hand, f@ggot knows that the word refers to him as well; if you use that word, every imbecile within the associated group feels abused and may cut his veins because of the painful cognitive dissonance.
(07-08-2013, 06:36 AM)Sava Wrote: One word can be fine and the other wrong NOT because of different meanings but because of different perceptions.
"Idiots" is a vast group of Earth's population, but using that word is fine because every idiot thinks he's not an idiot.
On the other hand, f@ggot knows that the word refers to him as well; if you use that word, every imbecile within the associated group feels abused and may cut his veins because of the painful cognitive dissonance.
lol, but y
But after all I still can't get why it's necessary to censor words in the internet (it's commonly known that the insults in internet are empty and nothing to care about really) while you can receive the same insults at street or at market or at wherever place in RL if some people had a bad day. Blocking swears is a waste of time from my pov since we're small community and have much more important things to do.
Also people are getting sanctions for swears anywhay be it f-bomb as it is or **** - then what is the big difference between **** and actual swearing? Will I be sanctioned for swearing if **** is what I actually typed, not some censored swear?
(07-07-2013, 08:26 PM)Champ Wrote: When you use that word as an insult in the first place, you vilify the group of people it refers to. That's because in order to be insulting, it implies there to be something negative about that group
Do you know how many words we've had to go through for 'learning disability' because people kept turning them into insults?
EXACTLY. You know why "retard" is an insult? BECUZ IT'S NEGATIVE!!! There's (almost) nothing positive about the condition of being retarded, hence the negativity, hence the insult. You can't turn a descriptive vibration of air particles into something positive if the very thing it is describing is perceived as negative.
Hence if being gay is a positive thing, then NOBODY should feel bothered by the f-word. If you're gay but feel bothered by the word fhag (no matter the context), then it just shows that you're uncomfortable with your own sexuality.
Same thing with the n-word. there's nothing inherently wrong with the n-word, it was initially a word created like any other word- a descriptive term that associated an ethnic group with their relative skin color. However it was offensive only because people using the word were racist asshoes. Certain black people use the n-word on each other, and the scholars are all freaked out by why the hell would they use a "perjorative term" on themselves- but they don't get that it's NOT a perjorative term if not in a perjorative context, hence why white people can't use the n-word because 99% of the time they use it their inner soul is wearing a pointy white ghost costume.
You can't just go censor/euphemise every term and phrase just because somebody used it in a negative context, It's not the word that needs to be changed or censored cause that doesnt do jack-there's never been an instance where a racist has been "oh the n-word's been banned so I'm gonna correct my racist ways and be a nice all tolerant world citizen"
it's the PEOPLE spaking it that need to be changed. Changing people's perceptions is the only way to remove the negativity, period.
ps. also I'm tired of this "female dog" bullshizzle, either use the word BlTCH or don't, "female dog" just sounds silly.
No atmosphere? GTFO.
The propeller is the greatest invention of all time.
i figure, if it aint an actual swear word (or sound like one) the admins and mods cant really do a kriffing thing about it.
It's not automated system so if they'll think it fits then you'll get a warning or sanction straight away. (while some will get away with F bombs, which is fun)
i figure, if it aint an actual swear word (or sound like one) the admins and mods cant really do a kriffing thing about it.
just that made up swearwords are... kinda gay.
wow. such an epic and original insult. you most be sooooooooooooooo badass. im sooooo scared.
/sarcasm
really. using gay as an insult went out of fashion years ago. since admins dont like the use of certain words because of negative connotations, all i have to say is:
you must wear your pants on your head a lot.
when you figure that one out, and post a really bad reply......
on second thought dont bother. you know you cant win.