I repeat this again.....all this base placement worry/hassle/Q_Q could be solved by making a rule that POBs (and defense platforms) must be placed no less than 3-5k away from any jump hole, jump gate, and NPC base. PROBLEM SOLVED.
Upkeep and invulnerability issues aside, this solution takes care of what I would say is 90% of folks' problem with POBs.
(08-21-2013, 06:38 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: I repeat this again.....all this base placement worry/hassle/Q_Q could be solved by making a rule that POBs (and defense platforms) must be placed no less than 3-5k away from any jump hole, jump gate, and NPC base. PROBLEM SOLVED.
Upkeep and invulnerability issues aside, this solution takes care of what I would say is 90% of folks' problem with POBs.
Like Puerta del Diablo in Cambridge, it's near the jump hole but it can only kill you if you stay still. I think that's the perfect way to place a POB.
why dosent the admins use German laws to hammer down on the hackers. MUHAHAHAHAHHA
I am not a native English Speaker, so i make grammar errors.
But it annoys me when people make silly comments about that... especially brits who for the most part can't speak their own language let alone anyone elses!
Tel still believes that Zoner have sovereignity and Omicron 74 is untouchable saint cow.
The one who leads an official factions dedicated to something which it doesn't do, unless ofcourse you use the random pvp raids and encounters as an excuse. Infact from what I saw you were happy to suck the life out of these zoners instead of engaging the nommies - just shows how you tear that faction apart. You see, with or without "strings" the za did not shoot any zoners at all until you came along, so from my reckoning without the skype rp we would have seen your faction rep-haxed. In the old days, zoners stood up for zoners, no matter who they are - now its stooding up via skype buddies, but i told you alexandria will go puff, and i told you that you are not immune - and doing what your doing right now serves my purpose, as an indie zoners and as a ZA myself. Thank god for golanski. And just for the record, shooting za at the time was "fine" - shooting za now isn't fine, shooting OSI isn't fine, shooting others except nomads isn't fine.
And please do not insult and degrade this thread by posting your "events" in the taus, or with the wilde - just don't, your faction is supposed to be a gallic-wise-zoner-hating group NOT Nomad hunters.
Edit 2 : The first time I realized you'r leadership is a joke is when you replied to my question regarding a zoner base at o-lost, saying " you dont like it " - Then you blew it up - and as usual everyone was busy looking down at the floor. You want to shoot zoners? Be a nomad, but while you have an ORDER ID, you do not stop ANY zoner whale, you do not demand ANY cargo from them unless its nommie, and you SHOOT NOMADS. If that isn't clear enough, I just dont know what does.
(08-21-2013, 07:14 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: The one who leads an official factions dedicated to something which it doesn't do, unless ofcourse you use the random pvp raids and encounters as an excuse. Infact from what I saw you were happy to suck the life out of these zoners instead of engaging the nommies - just shows how you tear that faction apart.
Keep whining about matters you have no idea about. Order answers to no RP laws. If you think our sole purpose is to kill Nomads, you are wrong. Otherwise we would have no human enemies at all.
(08-21-2013, 07:14 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: You see, with or without "strings" the za did not shoot any zoners at all until you came along, so from my reckoning without the skype rp we would have seen your faction rep-haxed. In the old days, zoners stood up for zoners, no matter who they are
Ask Corsairs as to what happened to real Zoner Alliance. You will find wonderful information as to how OSI and Omicroners went into coldwar and Alliance itself was teared apart because Zoners did not stood up to defend their own folks.
(08-21-2013, 07:14 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: 'now its stooding up via skype buddies, but i told you alexandria will go puff
Too bad, Alexandria was abandoned before bass hunters even tried.
(08-21-2013, 07:14 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: and i told you that you are not immune - and doing what your doing right now serves my purpose
Keep talking... it is obvious you are just playing forum tough guy that invents random stuff on the go to justify your own failures. For a change I admit shooting OSI was a mistake but I have decided such and do not try to find OORP excuses.
(08-21-2013, 07:14 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: And please do not insult and degrade this thread by posting your "events" in the taus, or with the wilde - just don't, your faction is supposed to be a gallic-wise-zoner-hating group NOT Nomad hunters.
Now you have me clueless. What has Tau or Wilde to do with all of this? What are you even talking about here?
(08-21-2013, 07:14 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Edit 2 : The first time I realized you'r leadership is a joke is when you replied to my question regarding a zoner base at o-lost, saying " you dont like it " - Then you blew it up - and as usual everyone was busy looking down at the floor. You want to shoot zoners? Be a nomad, but while you have an ORDER ID, you do not stop ANY zoner whale, you do not demand ANY cargo from them unless its nommie, and you SHOOT NOMADS. If that isn't clear enough, I just dont know what does.
Haters gonna hate. You complain because you are on the receiving end, because your virtual empire had not calculated risk of having your pixels broken through perfectly valid role-play and ingame repercussions. There are no good guys in this universe - Order while wants to kill off Nomads, have its own agenda - so does everyone else, including ZA. This is not the first time when Zoners are killed for not acting like a Zoners.
(08-21-2013, 07:14 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Third Edit : OH and lets not forget you used this logbook, ilegaly : http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1350797 to start a war under the phoney psycho-drama of ZA holding nomad stuff. Great job.
Nope, I am not really bothering to read your stuff to be honest. You just left those remains on the view in commodity trader. It was not really THAT hard to find it.
EDIT: Shameless self-promotion
http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=97037
This thread will include vision (still in development) concerning very dystopian future where The Order defeated Nomads and gains total domination over Sirius. It will be my logical attempt to get worst-case scenario for Sirius population as The Order pursues its ultimate objective of ensuring species survival (no matter what the cost).
So, basically, there's a confirmation that PoBs are still being fixed for whatever problem they had before, and they will be released when they are done. That's what I got out of this thread. Thank you for the information, and thank you for your work, devs.
Edit: Also to be clear, the Runners dont want to be part of this war but we kept getting dragged back in, no offence to the ZA war'ing parties but its true, i've spoken even to our leader on this matter and if the bases do return the Runners are staying out of this conflict, pointless anymore and not to push anyone buttons but Tel is right on the part where he keeps saying "Get off your arse and do something about it"
2nd Edit: Also if no one gets the pictures, i was trying to state the admins hate when threads turn to hate and it makes Loken sad
Tel still believes that Zoner have sovereignity and Omicron 74 is untouchable saint cow.
The one who leads an official factions dedicated to something which it doesn't do, unless ofcourse you use the random pvp raids and encounters as an excuse. Infact from what I saw you were happy to suck the life out of these zoners instead of engaging the nommies - just shows how you tear that faction apart. You see, with or without "strings" the za did not shoot any zoners at all until you came along, so from my reckoning without the skype rp we would have seen your faction rep-haxed. In the old days, zoners stood up for zoners, no matter who they are - now its stooding up via skype buddies, but i told you alexandria will go puff, and i told you that you are not immune - and doing what your doing right now serves my purpose, as an indie zoners and as a ZA myself. Thank god for golanski. And just for the record, shooting za at the time was "fine" - shooting za now isn't fine, shooting OSI isn't fine, shooting others except nomads isn't fine.
And please do not insult and degrade this thread by posting your "events" in the taus, or with the wilde - just don't, your faction is supposed to be a gallic-wise-zoner-hating group NOT Nomad hunters.
Edit 2 : The first time I realized you'r leadership is a joke is when you replied to my question regarding a zoner base at o-lost, saying " you dont like it " - Then you blew it up - and as usual everyone was busy looking down at the floor. You want to shoot zoners? Be a nomad, but while you have an ORDER ID, you do not stop ANY zoner whale, you do not demand ANY cargo from them unless its nommie, and you SHOOT NOMADS. If that isn't clear enough, I just dont know what does.
I will ask a totally neutral question, don't mind me, please.
Have someone ever thought that, if the nomads are killed/wiped out ( emphasize on "IF" ) , what will be the next Order objective?
Will it disappear? Retreat to some caves? I doubt.
Order is not only about killing nomads and it will never be.
Also, zoners never actually stood up for other zoners. Every zoner organization is like "Every man for himself "
Obsidian Zoetic is a good example. They got themselves into hard trouble with the Order and the Core and no other zoner bothered to help them ( especially because it is OZ who threw fecal matter at an activated fan which turned around at alarming speeds )
I personally, never witnessed a time where zoners actually stood up for each other. But I'm not so old as well, so if there was, please tell me.
There might be some chances that I would be the person hunting unicorns here and I'd like to stop that from happening
(08-10-2015, 07:03 PM)Antonio- Wrote: King Eduard is the greatest
You already mentioned why nobody wanted to help OZ. it's simple because they weren't interested in stopping this. Actually, we wanted to help them by diplomatic talks, aka mediators between groups. But, in general picture you are right, there is not much love between Zoner groups, at least history shows. When ZTC and then Omicroners had a drama - TAZ nor OSI wasn't interested in helping them. There been a "coldwar" between ZTC and OSI due a backstory, that's why.
As for late conflicts ongoing in 49. My guys had a simple orders - is somebody attacks OSI, we protecting them.
So it's really depends on the conflict, how it was developed and why it happened. Usually Zoners helping each other by diplomatic matters, due obvious reasons. Zoner groups indeed separate to each other, but not extraneous.