Junker Roleplay in light of new Lawful ID

[JunkerTown]

I wonder why the ID was changed in the first place.
What did the junkers ever do to you devs to mess them up this bad?
This really messes up a lot of their RP, I don't see a single benefit in this change.

Indeed and really ruined all that we've worked for.
We spent a lot of time moving legal goods and keeping up legitimate appearances to maintain our "quasi" status.
Congrats to the devs on making all our hard work pointless.
Didn't take much either.. one line on an ID and *poof* quasi status is now worthless.

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[Zayne Carrick]

Maybe congress can ask for their own ID?
Without piracy and cooperation with unlawfuls?

[JunkerTown]

Maybe congress can ask for their own ID?
Without piracy and cooperation with unlawfuls?

We decided against this idea long ago.
Our faction has always wanted to represent Junkers.
The goal was to have a faction of Junkers maintaining a legal front.
Freeing up other Junkers to do whatever.
Also if we just have our own ID that is strictly lawful Junker we won't have the freedom to trade with those unlawful groups.
Without a "quasi" status were either lawful or unlawful and isn't representative of the original intent of the Junkers.

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[Druen78]

Not to mention that the same kind of lolwuts that pester the Junkers, are also randomly blowing up any freelancer in sight, ebcause even the Freelancer ID has the "quasilawful" word.

[Anaximander]

In all fairness though .:J:. have been fondling the lawful side more than necessary; it's been up for discussion before.

I saw SW)'s and other groups' in-game actions as more representative for the Junker NPC faction as a whole, and .:J:. as more the icing on the cake.

[Ponge]

THIS is exactly the problem with this asinine change.

For your knowledge, this guy only exists to pester junkers. No more purpose just pure trolling. No valid RP, just "Junker! I AM THE LAW! DIE!!!!!!!". After this "quality" interaction, he logged out immediately, he was just waiting to harass me. And the number of these trolls will just increase. I am protesting against the ID change as long as these trolls exist, and makes playing Discovery Freelancer an annoyance rather than fun.

In all fairness though .:J:. have been fondling the lawful side more than necessary; it's been up for discussion before.

I saw SW)'s and other groups' in-game actions as more representative for the Junker NPC faction as a whole, and .:J:. as more the icing on the cake.

You saw the Congress do lawful things, and you did not saw the Congress do unlawful things, right?

MAN! THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT! To hide the unlawful things! To not get caught!

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[Masterial]

(...) To not get caught!

I know you'd like to smuggle and do unlawful activities under the radar (who doesn't?), but if you're about to be brought to justice, dont try to escape, son. Liberty will not become corupt and wont be flooded with cardamine nor with artifacts! *nods*

[Zayne Carrick]

For your knowledge, this guy only exists to pester junkers. No more purpose just pure trolling. No valid RP, just "Junker! I AM THE LAW! DIE!!!!!!!". After this "quality" interaction, he logged out immediately, he was just waiting to harass me. And the number of these trolls will just increase. I am protesting against the ID change as long as these trolls exist, and makes playing Discovery Freelancer an annoyance rather than fun.

Well I think I should comment this.
Military factions are logged in usually for purpose. You comply, when RHA is logging, when he sees DHC in O-11 online?
You comply, when BAF is logging, when he sees RNS Valor in New London?
Hope the answer is no. I see same situation here.

Let me quote the last interaction.

[30.09.2013 17:07:51] .:j:.Wayland's.Lorry[$85] exited jumpgate at New York G-6
[30.09.2013 17:07:54] 2013-09-30 17:07:55 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:07:54] LPI.Transcendent: Stop right there, quasilawful scum!
[30.09.2013 17:08:04] 2013-09-30 17:08:06 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:08:04] .:j:.Wayland's.Lorry: Ahoy. Stopping.
[30.09.2013 17:08:19] The.Lost'[$41] exited tradelane at California C-6
[30.09.2013 17:08:27] ???01[$42] entered tradelane at California D-4
[30.09.2013 17:08:31] 2013-09-30 17:08:32 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:08:31] Death: captenS was killed by an NPC
[30.09.2013 17:08:32] 2013-09-30 17:08:34 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:08:32] LPI.Transcendent: Junkers are unwelcome in Liberty any longer. You should pay 5 million fine and go back to puerto rico
[30.09.2013 17:08:49] 2013-09-30 17:08:51 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:08:49] .:j:.Wayland's.Lorry: Name the law or decree I am breaking and i pay.
[30.09.2013 17:08:57] ???01[$42] exited tradelane at California E-4
[30.09.2013 17:09:06] 2013-09-30 17:09:07 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:09:06] LPI.Transcendent: You have order of LPI officers. WE ARE THE LAWS
[30.09.2013 17:09:10] ???01[$42] entered tradelane at California E-4
[30.09.2013 17:09:14] Laser=Pew[$57] exited jumpgate at Colorado C-3
[30.09.2013 17:09:27] 2013-09-30 17:09:29 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:09:27] .:j:.Wayland's.Lorry: Ahm, the rules laid out by your Government. That is the law.
[30.09.2013 17:09:33] ???01[$42] exited tradelane at California F-3
[30.09.2013 17:09:40] 2013-09-30 17:09:42 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:09:40] LPI.Transcendent: So you're refusing to comply?
[30.09.2013 17:09:52] Vasco_Da_Gama[$25] entered tradelane at California B-4
[30.09.2013 17:09:54] 2013-09-30 17:09:55 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:09:54] .:j:.Wayland's.Lorry: No. Let it have your way then.
[30.09.2013 17:09:57] ???01[$42] exited jumpgate at New York B-6
[30.09.2013 17:09:59] 2013-09-30 17:10:01 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:09:59] Death: Laser=Pew was killed by an NPC
[30.09.2013 17:10:01] 2013-09-30 17:10:03 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:10:01] LPI.Transcendent: Ahh
[30.09.2013 17:10:16] Vasco_Da_Gama[$25] exited tradelane at California C-4
[30.09.2013 17:10:21] ???01[$42] entered tradelane at New York B-6
[30.09.2013 17:10:22] 2013-09-30 17:10:24 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:10:22] LPI.Transcendent: Now proceed into your system
[30.09.2013 17:10:28] 2013-09-30 17:10:29 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:10:28] .:j:.Wayland's.Lorry: proceeding.
[30.09.2013 17:10:37] Mikec1687[$53] exited jumpgate at Texas E-7
[30.09.2013 17:10:44] Vasco_Da_Gama[$25] entered tradelane at California D-4
[30.09.2013 17:10:48] ???01[$42] exited tradelane at New York C-5
[30.09.2013 17:11:04] Mikec1687[$53] entered tradelane at Texas E-7
[30.09.2013 17:11:07] 2013-09-30 17:11:08 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:11:07] Death: Mr.Kein was killed by an NPC
[30.09.2013 17:11:13] Vasco_Da_Gama[$25] exited tradelane at California E-4
[30.09.2013 17:11:14] .:j:.Wayland's.Lorry[$85] exited jumpgate at Texas E-2
[30.09.2013 17:11:21] 2013-09-30 17:11:22 SMT
[30.09.2013 17:11:21] LPI.Transcendent: Also, remember that this is only warning, next time you'll be killed on sight

Hell, you've not even been killed! Yes, people are using /restart Betatestcash to bug quasilawfuls. This will change on release, however. Look on this as on payment for all that years of zonerzonerzoner politics. Junkers inRP have deals with each and every unlawful faction in Sirius(except for kusarians and xenoses) and yet when lawful is demanding you to leave their house you're stating that he's "troll". I see this actions perfectly fits inRP.

[sindroms]

Let me risk stepping on a landmine here and suggest that perhaps these attacks are directed towards the .:j:. instead of the Junkers as a whole.
If we do not like hot the Congress is representing itself as a 'lawful junker powertrading faction', then now that the One-official-per-ID rule has been removed, perhaps someone want to make a strong, proper junker faction and allow the Congress simply fill the niche it so very well wants?

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[Ponge]

Hell, you've not even been killed! Yes, people are using /restart Betatestcash to bug quasilawfuls. This will change on release, however. Look on this as on payment for all that years of zonerzonerzoner politics. Junkers inRP have deals with each and every unlawful faction in Sirius(except for kusarians and xenoses) and yet when lawful is demanding you to leave their house you're stating that he's "troll". I see this actions perfectly fits inRP.

What guarantees that trolls will be gone with the release and rollback? Nothing. Just look at the Bass Hunter case.
Junkers are quasi-lawfuls, NOT unlawfuls. My problem is, they are treated as one, because of that single line in the ID. When you see a quasi-lawful, you scan him, interrogate him, and pop him, if he broke the law. If quasi-lawfuls are treated as unlawfuls, what is the point of the quasi-lawful status? This is the main question NO ONE answered yet. Can you answer it? How can Junkers carry out the lawful part of their lore/RP if they are popped on sight for simply existing?
"Junkers are unwelcome in Liberty any longer." Who said this and where?

Let me risk stepping on a landmine here and suggest that perhaps these attacks are directed towards the .:j:. instead of the Junkers as a whole.
If we do not like hot the Congress is representing itself as a 'lawful junker powertrading faction', then now that the One-official-per-ID rule has been removed, perhaps someone want to make a strong, proper junker faction and allow the Congress simply fill the niche it so very well wants?

No, indies are harassed, too.
Congress is powertrading, because we are only seen hauling legal cargo, and not seen carrying contraband? Hell, then Congress does its job pretty well, don't you think?

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