Molly Independance

[Eppy]

I like it...it could be done. And the Outcasts have no qualms about losing the Molly alliance, we've had an understanding with the BAF for some time, that's our foothold in Bretonian space right there.

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Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen

Which Dreadnought was that?

One of your nine.

[Ion]

what Hyperion said. We would not expect the workload to be placed squarely on igiss shoulders, I myself would be happy to assist if needed.

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[Dieter Schprokets]

I don't want a ceasefire right now.

The action in Dublin is one of the few things Bretonia has going for it right now.

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[Bass_masta992]

Nay on the ceasefire right now. It's like Dieter said, it's one of few things keeping bretonia active, and also a main attraction to kusari war.

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[Hyperion]

I understand why you say no.
Our fights are the only one action in bretonia for now.
But if we leave everything this way, nothing will chnage.

With this new concept, we could raise the tradeing in bretonia. The molly open up the gold tradeing, so it would make a big profit to transport them anywhere in sirius.
The new drug-addict faction would be a big ally of the outcasts, they would be selling there cardamine in bretonia (on there base in bretonia) so the smuggeling would raise too.
I think in short time, someone would love to make a cla for this faction, bretonia had badguys again.
The gaians could have a biger part too, so maybe there would be more active gaian players.

So i think ithis change would be good for bretonia.

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lurking in the darkness...

[Xing]

making Molly into some kind of...
but now wait a second. If they become independent, and agree on cease fire, where to they get their supply then? It's not like they have farms, or anything, just gold and some captured station that produce I don't know what - they don't even have supply on raw materials.
If they get independence, that means they cant pirate anymore, right?

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[Carlos_Benitez]

Right. Here's my idea;

Mollys become more involved in Gold mining, export, and guerilla warfare against Kusari.
Bretonia pulls the Battleship Essex out of Dublin, and positons it on the other side of the Jumpgate (in Leeds).
Bretonia begin construction of Belfast Base (owned by either Interspace Commerce or Bowex) to act as neutral-ground between the Irish and the Bretonians. (Like Northern Ireland). The station could be used as a platform to facilitate further development in the system (beginning with nav buoys, and some tradelanes).
NB. There are wrecked trade lanes already in Dublin. Bowex is a Bretonian company that would be happy to act as a half-way group for trade between Bretonia and the people of Dublin.

I might also suggest Mollys begin sending funds to groups such as the Unioners and Farmers' Alliance to assist in their struggles to fight oppressive corporations and gain their own rights. (kindred spirits). Before moaning about he FA's affiliation with the Corsairs, there is no reason that such minor organisations can't burn the candle from both ends. The real world is not black-and-white.

Mollys continue to have severe problems with the Corsairs, who continue to attack the Mollys purely to supplement their wealth (cargo holds full of gold...yum).

Someone ought to take over Graves, although it should be noted that there are plenty of IMG bases in the area, and the Mollys do not need a clone of Arranmore in the same system.

Don't give the Outcasts another ally in Bretonia. They don't need one, and the playing field still hasn't been levelled after the Unioners switched sides.



(How can the Molly's be supplied?)
Gold is one of the most valuable metals and still is. If allowed to take over BMM's equipment in Dublin, the Mollys will have a steady stream of gold with can be used to buy everything they might need. Let's also not forget they aren't a large population, and without corporate corruption, the Molly nation could become very rich, very quickly.

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[Joe012]

ive seen a lot of good idea's here, so i figured I'd throw mine out there and get some thoughts.

1) Command of the Essex is handed over to the Mollys (Next Version). This will become the headquarters of the new lawful Molly Navy.

2) Bretonia will be able to maintain patrols in Dublin around the Essex, New London Jumpgate and Graves station asteroid feild until the transfer of the Essex is complete.

3) The Dublin Republican Navy will assist in the Kusari war.

4) The Dublin Republican Navy will Assist in defending from all Corsair attacks.

5) Dublin will open its gold trade markets to the Bretonians.

6) Bretonia will not interfere with DRN's (Dublin Republican Navy) Privateering service within the Borders of Dublin, nor will it interfere with privateering in area's outside the realm of Bretonian control.


A New Molly Government will be formed. The Republic Of Dublin. All Pilots will use a generic Military ID for now, a lawful molly ID (DRN) to be implemented next version. The use of the Grey Hound and Werewolf are permitted. All Capships are to be Bretonian equipment. No more Outcast / Unlawful stuff.

After the signing of the Dublin peace accord, radical Mollys refuse to accept the agreement. Civil war erupts, destroying the new found peace. The radicals remains defiant and refuses to recogize the authority of the Dublin Republic, it maintains its close ties to the Outcast, Red Hessians and other unlawful factions in Siruis. The radicals consider the new lawful government to be traitors to the Molly cause. Civil War like none ever seen in the galaxy explodes in Dublin.

I think that its the best route, and it allows us to keep an unlawful molly faction intact. If know anything about the Micheal Collins story, and the realworld irish bid for independence, this is what Im playing at here.

I think that the existance of two molly factions within the same system, or at least in neighboring systems, could really drum up a lot of interest. Who doesnt like the RP idea of civil war? The roleplay value of it is RICH! This would also cut out the need for modding Dublin, save for editing the Essex's info card, though I would like to see some trade lanes or at least a station built there.

The Dublin republic will be allied with the Bretonian Authority, and will conduct themselves as all things lawful, with the exception that I would like to implement a "Privateering" service, to maintain taxes on traders coming to Dublin, or on any of the borders surrounding Bretonia. This is just an idea...but hey, if the Bretonians can have one, why couldnt we?

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Twelve Mollies and a bagpipe make a rebellion.



.:UOG:.Z*Joeinicus / Molly
.:UOG:.A*Phobos / Molly
Conn.Sullivan / Trader
Renius / Smuggler
{DRA}Brady.O'Sullivan / Molly Terrorist

[LancerZero]

I like it, Joe. A solid consolidation of many of the better ideas presented thus far in this thread. I'm unsure about the Essex, though...but that's the only sticking point for me. I guess it depends on how exactly it all plays out. The extremist Mollies could be based in Mull Base in Newcastle. It's far from Dublin, and sufficiently isolated to potentially serve the purpose quite well, I think.

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[Joe012]

I like it, Joe. A solid consolidation of many of the better ideas presented thus far in this thread. I'm unsure about the Essex, though...but that's the only sticking point for me. I guess it depends on how exactly it all plays out. The extremist Mollies could be based in Mull Base in Newcastle. It's far from Dublin, and sufficiently isolated to potentially serve the purpose quite well, I think.

See, know I hadnt thought of that. Mull Base would be a perfect place, plus it would breathe some life back into the newcastle system.....

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Twelve Mollies and a bagpipe make a rebellion.



.:UOG:.Z*Joeinicus / Molly
.:UOG:.A*Phobos / Molly
Conn.Sullivan / Trader
Renius / Smuggler
{DRA}Brady.O'Sullivan / Molly Terrorist