There are 85 POBs on the server.

[Hidamari]

Restore server to 4.85, for great justice. End of lag, bad story lines, and retarded "balance"

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[RedEclipse]

Nobody's said 3 battleships. Assaulting POB should be a confrontation, if you haven't enough of people to back up your base, then why you've built it? POB supposed to be a teamwork.

We had incidents like 15 battleships(plus or minus) assaulted POB for day or two and then it's started to be incredibly boring. While owner was not sure what's RP and not care about stuff, because he got enough of basic commodities to maintain this base for weeks under siege.

[Druen78]

Restore server to 4.85, for great justice. End of lag, bad story lines, and retarded "balance"

This.

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I don't seed a signature.

[RedEclipse]

Bad story lines starts from Gallia.

[Birdtalon]

Restore server to 4.85, for great justice. End of lag, bad story lines, and retarded "balance"

Endorsed

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[Zed26]

Some well thought-out proposals amongst the usual mantras we've all heard before...and +1s.

3. Make bases invulnerable and remove their weapons.

There will always be those who'll say "bases are bad, no exceptions", but for most people, aren't weapon platforms the real issue with POBs?

1. Make bases hard to get but easier to maintain i.e. SRP style requests that explain what purpose the base would serve and it's position. Must be built on the plane.
2. Remove the grind by reducing the demands to run bases. Max run time per supply, 1 month.

If bases are to become invincible (to player attacks), they'll require a stringent SRP process, which allows for immediate regulation of location, proximity to lanes/holes/stations, type/purpose, and number per area - no extra coding or updating required. I'm against the elitist argument that only official factions should get them, as there are unofficial factions with good RP who contribute a lot of activity to the game, and they deserve to be acknowledged.

5. Give bases a specific role...

Putting out a proposal with a role in mind will get people to articulate ideas and plan RP ahead. There are plenty of bases - often hidden off plane/map - with flimsy/non-existent RP that are little more than a secret clubhouse for a few friends. If bases really are contributing to the recent lag, we can start clearing these out now.

...and give them designs fitting with that role.

This, and other suggestions are more of a challenge and will take time to write up/model, but they are worth looking into - who knows, it may even inspire more people to step up and take on modeling. For now, we can start with a big reduction in the number of rage/tears while using RP/images to describe the bases.

One community issue is that there are so many "big picture" visionary posts presenting a sweeping change that is unrealistic or highly demanding within the scope of the game. Not that we don't need these ideas and innovation, but let's take baby steps and lay out what's achievable in the next day/week/month/quarter/year, rather than, "If I don't have this now, I'll never be happy." It'd be great to have more developer conversations and insight in a civil forum, with conversations that don't go like:

Players: "Devs don't get it. If they actually read anything, they'd see all the cancer that's killing Disco. Play the game for once. Somethingsomething ivory tower."

Devs: "We can never make players happy. We add this, you rage, we change it, you QQ. We don't get paid enough for this job. We're just going with what will upset the fewest people. Somethingsomething entitlement."

[Resentment Intensifies]

Then everyone gets defensive, insults are fired off, memes get thrown around, the thread's locked.

[Kazinsal]

Restore server to 4.85, for great justice. End of lag, bad story lines, and retarded "balance"

Somehow I think the full server wipe that would be needed would kill the server faster than 4.87 will.

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Retired, permanently.

[NOVA-5]

But isn't that what most here want anyway, to kill this server
& have it taken somewhere else?

[Zen_Mechanics]

And I dont like Golden Coin, but that doesnt mean Im going to pass resolutions oorp to take it out. Infact, Im pretty sure that once something truly damages the mechanics of freelancer, then you can expect the green staff to do something about it. Let me emphasies one more time, incase I missed something. The issue is not stations, the issue is how people use it. And I'll give you an example. First two stations who were constructed at 74 holes were meant to halt the nommies, who at the time were "Swram" or tag to that effect, the initial rp was not to block anyone but to secure the entire place, because zoners only have 1 shipyard. So, There are some who want to annoy people, and there are those who dont want to hurt community cohesion, but unable to, and why? because people complain at every chance. Why on earth dont you people spend as much time as negotiating with places like "Golden coin" in RP and work it out, rather than passing resolutions here? Did anyone has ever refused to enter a dialouge with you, have you ever tried that? Or did you simply wanted to pop it but now that you cant, its forum-lancing time. I can promiss you, that even if were talking about a six year old with a core-4, each player in this server is obligated to rp and know it well.

However, I don't get to cocky on this subject because - bottom line, Its the weapon platforms, not the stations themselves, so atleast you can be honest enough to admit that. Thank you.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[ProwlerPC]

Such a wipe is very drastic and essentially should be filed away as "The Big Red Button" and kept there until the very utter end. In the past I've gone into a bit of length about that topic and never dismissed it as an option. But it's an option that should wait until a threshold is broken. This community has endured worse but some tweaking might be needed to address bases.

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