Admin Notice: Phantoms 2.0

[Papa Oomaumau]

Now I'm not swinging it like some appendage, but rather to give you a sense of my ability to see the long-view, but my 6 years here tell me Phantoms just don't fit.

Now I'm wiling to entertain the idea, but it better be seriously effin' deep.
Something that 'grew' from Disco Lore naturally - otherwise it's just another import.

If you say "it used to exist - so it should again" - then give me back the bloody Spatial, Mafic, or Spyglass. Or make my Pilgrim black & red again.

No - I mean this thing (if you're gonna ignore all the broken crap on the floor amongst the cigarette butts and shattered glass of half-finished 'great ideas' anyway) better be a friggin' V8 moment - like WHAM! "Of course, why didn't I think of this?"

Cause, srsly, if this new Phoom thing makes any kind of sense at all besides OP killers with paper thin RP, I'll back it till the cows come home.
If not, you can expect a helluva lot more people than just me being pist about it.

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[glassofwater]

- The Phantoms will not be a 'Shoot everyone everywhere' terrorist faction anymore

Then those are not the Phantoms then.
The phantoms were the only, mind, only faction from back in my memory, where having them pop up on the scanner meant certain death. Flee or be killed, if you even can. It was thrilling, scary and you know you could not reason with it.

You could not even fight it, because their ships were indeed better. That was the thing about the Phantoms. That is what made them Phantoms.

Removing those two things would ruin the faction. Imho, if you wanted to remove it just because of that, then keep them removed and let us bask in memories when they were a threat.

Please do not ruin them. Do not try and defang them in order to have them fit in the very strict lore and rule driven Discovery of 7 years later.

I agree with this entirely. Please, don't break something that was amazing. Don't make them like the new "Nomads" that aren't a threat in any way. Make their ID allowed to engage and destroy on sight.

[Backo]

Apparently "Phantoms 2.0" is the magic word to revive the dead. Good to know.

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Republic of the Sword and Sun

[Dusty Lens]

The irrelevant old ones can only rise to respond to an issue buried in sufficient ancient irrelevance to justify our presence.

[Echelon]

To: The Admin Team

Are you guys insane with bringing back the Phooms? If you want to create a scary ass boogeyman for Sirius - you don't need the Phooms. Just de-nut the dev team and let the Nomads and K'Hara be the nasty, scary bad ass aliens that they're SUPPOSED to be under ... you know, the lore of the original game! Sure, Trent killed many of them - but that's because it was in the script.

Okay, enough said. Returning to lurk / grumpy old man mode...

I fully support that the phooms don't need to be back, I wasn't here to experience them, but right now discovery needs more originality, and doing a publicity stunt like this isn't really helping, phantoms don't belong, and out of respect of the older members who made them and played the closed faction, it was their faction their thing and just granting us a even worse version publicly of them is just a joke, just remove omicron 82. Or make it into a ultra dangerous mining system without all the phooms or something.

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[Remnant]

Little does the community realize, that this 'replacement' is not going to be the Phantoms in the slightest most likely.

Little does the community know, that there are going to be some big differences between the past, and the future. Including the name.

[Echelon]

Little does the community realize, that this 'replacement' is not going to be the Phantoms in the slightest most likely.

Little does the community know, that there are going to be some big differences between the past, and the future. Including the name.

I hope so, otherwise let it be just how it was... dead

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[Echelon]

I appreciate what the admins/devs are trying to do and I come with a proposal. Organize a RP contest. Have the tech, bases and whatever of the Phantoms as grand prize. Ask the community to come with a completely new concept of a faction. Something that wasn't tried before. Give the prize to the most original concept and see how that goes.

This sounds perfect,

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[Dane]

I'll throw my ring into the hat here. I was here when the decision was made to disband the Phantoms. We all said good bye, Virus went on to focus on other things. It sucked. But I understood. I miss my 'drunken monkey' RC and the real ability to add some RP to the player experience, however... I am not really gung ho on the thought of bringing them back. Certainly not under the current ideas that I have seen. I am sorry, but I just don't see the value of it. There are factions on Disco that have a place... and many of them have to be 'earned'. I have always agreed with that. I have always supported the Admins and other Server Teams, as I could. But you asked for input. It is a bad idea. Do not, please, do not, relegate the Phantoms to 'just another faction'. I think someone said something about giving the Nomads a tune up... I actually prefer that idea. I also like the idea of working in more ship models.

Let them rest in agony, people. Just let them go.

Just my two cents.

Be well.

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No enterprise is more likely to succeed than one concealed from the enemy until it is ripe for execution.

-Niccolo Machiavelli

[Zapp]

The irrelevant old ones can only rise to respond to an issue buried in sufficient ancient irrelevance to justify our presence.

Dusty, you always had such a lovely way with words <3



Seriously though, I'm curious. Did anything ever come from this?

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