Information about upcoming Zoner changes

[Sath]

You know what would be cool? If Zoners had a bomber of their own that was actually the "first" combat oriented vessel for defense. That way, you can still bomb the faces off of Marduks and everyone else can be content without lolwut Zoner caps.

^That would resolve the problem of defense,I accept.But as I said,there are 2 types of Zoner RP regarding the Nephilims.What is the solution to the other side of people who use that as a mobile freeport,a moving hospital,an orphanage and so on?

[t0l]

You know what would be cool? If Zoners had a bomber of their own that was actually the "first" combat oriented vessel for defense. That way, you can still bomb the faces off of Marduks and everyone else can be content without lolwut Zoner caps.

^That would resolve the problem of defense,I accept.But as I said,there are 2 types of Zoner RP regarding the Nephilims.What is the solution to the other side of people who use that as a mobile freeport,a moving hospital,an orphanage and so on?

If it's a 5Ker or 4.3ker or whatever the hell of some sort, there'd be more room onboard cargo-wise than a BS and you could RP that your transport was converted into a floating city.

See how easy that was?

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[Sath]

If it's a 5Ker or 4.3ker or whatever the hell of some sort, there'd be more room onboard cargo-wise than a BS and you could RP that your transport was converted into a floating city.

See how easy that was?

more room onboard cargo-wise than a BS and you could RP that your transport was converted into a floating city.

that your transport

I hope this helps.

Just wanted to ask something about the Zoner Academy Wazza mentioned.
Can't he RP that with the new ship, or does the Academy have to be located on a huge battleship?

The ship that he used there was a Colony ship,which has the looks and the story behind it to support the idea of Orphanage.And it is not an outright battleship,but it has the defenses of a battleship to defend itself.

You cant use these transports to run an orphanage.

Some more clarifications:

Orphanage:A place which gives shelter and food for people who have lost their parents.A place for them to "live"

Transport:A vessel/entity used for moving things from one place to another.

Basic thought,orphans,and in general,you cant expect people to be sheltered in a transport.Would anyone of us accept a bus/train/car to be our home/orphanage?Some things are meant to be,they cannot be altered.

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Now, I dont think zoner caps should be thrown into the dump. simple sentence.

reason:

investment from 100's of players
dissappointment to 100's of players
causes QQQuit from players
reduces fun output in game
all the whatnots typed by the many courteous people here

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[tothebonezone]

A few things.

First off-- Zoners mad.

Secondly, those models actually look fantastic, Jinx. I've given you some trouble before but those look badass. Please do a good job texturing them.

Thirdly, I approve of the de-battleship-ification of the Zoners. I might actually make a Zoner due to these changes.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

It will reduce our activity, it might not kill it completely but yeah, given that omicrons are lonely they might as well delete that section. Ofcourse I will rush to defend the nephilim, Im not the only one who uses it, and unlike others i could mention i use it wisely, no matter how many pesks try to impose on me the selfish lolwuttery excuse. The minute I hear the countless upper-case sentences about zoner caps being bs and are outright insane, the conversation stops.
It is ugly even for the ugliest person to do such a thing as to remove someone elses fun, knowing fully it will damage him. Don't be a zoner, we don't need you - especaily with the given reason.

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[Mister_X]

You know, all you need is a bit of imagination and voila, any liner or even these new transports can inRP be whatever you want, you don't need huge colony ships.
But I guess you'd have to have imagination first.

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[Haste]

You can't have fun roleplaying Zoners without capitals that logically shouldn't have ever existed* in the first place? You have a colony ship now that also happens to have immense amounts of firepower. You will have a colony ship after these changes, except you can now no longer farm Marduk NPCs with it. Fortunately, you can now fly it into house space without getting kicked out by the local law enforcers. Less firepower, more freedom to go where you please. Seems like a decent trade-off to me.

*) Yes, yes, I know, there are other minor factions out there that shouldn't have caps either. This is, however, a step in the right direction.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

No no, everytime the OSI/Phoenix try to write a good lore the devs change something and that sends them back to square ONE, It is not originaly a colony ship, and even if it was by a selected people, it is not for some of us. So please, some people find it fun to hover with starfliers, some don't, some like to park at baltimore shipyard with countless lib dreads, I am going to respect that, even though im against it - however, I am not going to take "pascal's wager" just because you made a compromise. What makes us different is the fact that we will never ever try to remove something from somebody else, and perhaps its what you learn when you play a zoner for so long, fairness and equality, not that you need discovery to know that. I wonder, what would happend if a selected individuals were to open a thread every two weeks degrading someone elses faction, would we then tolerate it like we tolerate this none-sense? I don't think so, because it has become a nuisance and a sitgma to debase zoners, and thats the truth behind all smiles, and hand-shakes. So you may carry on discussing and talking about the endless talks about "talks" - trying to convince us that it has something to do with it, when infact it is not - the truth finds a way, and I really don't care how you feel about it, I don't care if we look like were insisting, that's what a loving person would do, insist upon the things he desires, and I'd tell each and every one of you that until something is about to be taken away from you, in that level of sensitivity, you';ll never know.

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[Sath]

Cant get anything to others' ears,since they brand my logical lore wise answers to be imaginable stuff,the same lore wise grounds,due to which they are removing caps.

Also,we already have whales which can fly through house systems without getting shot at.But the problem is not flying in house space,docking in house space.Adding 2 more ships to that line which cannot be docked in house space,except a few bases,makes Ziners even more less desirable.
And regarding your other QQ about imaginary BS is very wrong in the devs part.When they were implemented and after so long,in which time many players have evolved many RP stories around their Nephilims,this is just giving them no damn about their RP and work.You shouldhave thought about removing it in the bud,when not many people were using it.Now removing it,is against the will of those people who actually own it and RP it supporting those people who dont own it and want the other players to deprieve of their work,ingame time spent.This is just an utter disgrace,if this change goes through.

And regarding other Zoner de-battleshipy-fication things,this is just pure hatred and no-reason comments towards this change.They simply dont have an idea as to what they are doing.