Re-purpose of other non-sense-make faction shiplines.

[Kazinsal]

Ow, that was bright.

Tractor beam is fixed for update 6, lag is not a development problem and is a root problem with the host's routers, meaning we need money for a new host and server.

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[Thexare]

The lag is a problem with the server host and the tractor is fixed for Update 6. Next irrelevant point?

[E.T.]

Ow, that was bright.

Tractor beam is fixed for update 6, lag is not a development problem and is a root problem with the host's routers, meaning we need money for a new host and server.

tractor beam short fix.. After pressing b and you beamed it then do shift b.. And voila it stops.

Edit: well kaz for example then bmm, dhc, Kruger and alg at least needs em against corsairs, outcasts, red Hessians and other cap unlawfulls. Kinda invalid reasoning in my eyes. In short just scrape.. act like gmg use bombers and not to mention those op transports. (last time I mention that) limit armor usage by rules or by I game mount mechanics. Rp wise big transports can only use till heavy armor.. Not cau8 and make some big war transport which is almost impossible to kill.

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[Blodwyn O'Driscoll]

Well, why do the pirates fly them then? Logically they have to have something going for them.

Pirates ? Pirates flying them ?

I'm not sure of what you are talking about.

Sorry, been sidetracked. I meant the Z-line ships. And yes, Rogues are pirates. A lot of Mollys are too.

So you're talking about Mollys and Rogues, not pirate IDed ones.

And therefore you do ask why Rogues and Mollys are flying the Rogue/Mollys ships ( the z-line ) ...
Well i suppose for the same reason that corsairs are flying titans, centurions, and gladi ...
Factions tend to be flying their faction ships ( it's kinda like wearing gangs colors, or uniforms : a part of a faction esthetical look ).

Also @Thexare you said rogues like money and would do stuff just for it.......


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Edit: you forgot pride. Like every other faction has

That's funny, I've never seen pride come up much for rogues in all my time here and all my rumor-hunting. It's always been money and drugs.

Which is fine. Not every group should have any sort of higher purpose or ideal.

I just do wonder, was that a proposal to open the Z-line to other unlawfuls like ... pirated IDed one ?
Because it seems that both factions banned those pirate from their bases, so i hardly believe they would sell their own ship to thoses they banned.

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That is the crux of the matter.
If you aid us, and you aid them, you are the enemy.
If you do not aid them, you are worthless outside of extortion potential.
If you aid us, you will be treated with respect.

Colin H. Breen, of the Molly Republic

[Thexare]

I just do wonder, was that a proposal to open the Z-line to other unlawfuls like ... pirated IDed one ?
Because it seems that both factions banned those pirate from their bases, so i hardly believe they would sell their own ship to thoses they banned.

Which was, let's be entirely honest, done for reasons of game mechanics more than RP, at least in the Rogues' case (not familiar with the Molly situation). Becuase they didn't want to have to FR5 every single pirate intruding on their territory. They do not, to my knowledge, care one way or the other who pirates in the Taus or Kusari or Rheinland or anywhere else that's not their turf, nor to they object to independent smugglers and their escorts using their bases (as long as they don't lead the lawfuls there).

There is also the matter of consistency, raised by Sindroms when he cited the Bactrian, Pirate Transport, and Pirate Train.

(Edit: And to be clear, I say the rephack was more for mechanics than RP, but I don't mean that in an accusatory way; given Liberty, I understand entirely.)

[Blodwyn O'Driscoll]

There is also the matter of consistency, raised by Sindroms when he cited the Bactrian, Pirate Transport, and Pirate Train.

Well i can understand that the Mollys/Rogues could have allowed some smurglers that supplied their base to buy the z-line transports and freighters, even to a point that over the time ,theses ships are commonly seen, and found for second hand sales.

But i still think it's another matter when it comes to almost military grades fighters and bombers ( let's not speak about the GB ).
Selling thoses to people that are competitors is not a good idea at all.
Worst , they could turn on you with your own ship.



And if it's juste a matter of consistency, z-line transports and freighter could also cease to be on open sale, after all

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That is the crux of the matter.
If you aid us, and you aid them, you are the enemy.
If you do not aid them, you are worthless outside of extortion potential.
If you aid us, you will be treated with respect.

Colin H. Breen, of the Molly Republic

[Nocturnia]

Although I'm for the Togo being put back as SRP only, since it actually fits in lore

Yes, Togo should be SRP, it would even make more sense since the ship is supposed to be super-rare.

[sindroms]

If we are going to bring up the Z line, I would suggest we wait for the official statement from both official factions who represent their NPCs and the lore.

You know.

Before zoner drama repeats.

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[Govedo13]

Why not more pressing concerns first? Like the lag, tractor beam, etc.

+1

Also about the Molly/Rogue stuff. Better leave it as it is or do separate lines. Taking the opinion of the two official factions first is also must before messing with their ships.

Giving the generics LR/Molly ships would be horrible idea- this would reduce the already low activity of the said factions.
Don't give anything to generics-killing the organised type of the gameplay (read official factions) is one of the main reasons to have unorganised generics and indies moving around.
Since they are unorganised they does not move around in big numbers. Indies are not in big numbers and are scatted around because of the second big reason- the idiotic system layout and idiotic system numbers.
Then the people check the list in the forum and decide that 50 random players laggy server is not worth it to logg- main reason 3- the terrible lag. Hence the low server population.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[Curios]

If you want to see a server population of 50 a day, sounds like a great plan.

50 normal people outweights 70-100 retards on battlecans for me.