Universal Shipping Incorporated

[SnakThree]

3M does fit there

I don't see 3M here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=136

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[Snozzz]

3M does fit there

I don't see 3M here: http://discoverygc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=136

i'm not disagreeing with you i'm just supplying what information i can on the matter. That is limited by my involvement in same.
We have by no means been keeping quiet about them and there have been discussions on the creation RP issues. Beyond RP content I have not been involved. Though I originated the idea, I have no further involvement.

Meantime you will just have to wait for the leadership to get back from whatever ..

If there has been such an omission or oversight I can only apologise on their behalf. Though I am somewhat surprised that its taken over four and a half months for anyone to notice their existence ! They were all probably too busy mining and hauling themselves, either as an official faction thats decided to add logistics to its remit or as just a bunch of indies !

[Pancakes]

[*USI*]3M is still part of [*USI*]. If you want, you could fly around with [*3M*] and RP as being owned by USI, by flying with USI IFF. You can't use ID that isn't part of your writeup.

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[Euca]

Um, just a reminder, that Omicron Theta isn't your ZoI. It doesn't make sense for you to be there.

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[Sath]

3 of your members got killed by someone and they respawn in the same system. I kill one of them who was in a Griffin, again. Now he logs in another ship, and the three of you gank me. And he justifies that he ejected before explosion and got onto this ship.

SUCH PRO RP FROM YOUR SIDE.

[Snozzz]

Thank you Moriarty. If you give me the names of those ships i will see that they are retrained and punished appropriately.

Wulverine, please send me the name of the ship(s) involved, so i can investigate that.

[Sath]

W.Rainer, J.Went, E.Johnson

[US|]

Supporting Liberty Since 150 A.S

Greetings,
sorry for the delay as our president Michael Trenton has been called away on unexpected business which has delayed a response on the issue of the 3M. I have review what information i could find and it looks like the executive that sat up the 3M at the time did indeed not follow the correct procedure for setting up an unofficial faction and also should of never used the [*USI*] tag for those ships. The current Executive administration is still discussing options in regards to these ships.




Signed,
Tam Nyund
Vice Chief of Staff
Universal Shipping, Inc.

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[Echo 7-7]

This is blatant abuse of miner ID.

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=1746

Attempting to circumvent 1 ID per faction rule is like multiboxing.

USI is a shipping company, that is all. You're nothing more, nothing less.

If USI starts mining, what is the point in DSE/IMG/Junkers?

Loneshark came to me saying Echo 7-7 gave them express permissions to do this:

why can we mine ?
well we are strongly linked to XA/xenos
who arew what ?
ex miners etc
we have established rp to rehabilitate ex xeno offenders
ie we employ them on release from Huntsville, Sugarland
so we have usurped their mining skills from that

3M originaly Morgan Mining and Manufacturing was bought up by USI to exploit these talents. becoming Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing

we talked it over with Max first

Max is a nobody, he cannot give you express permissions to bend rules to your advantage, considering he undermined what was said to loneshark here.

So as this is a complete and utter disregard on the ID rule, I'll be looking a lot deeper into this.

My spider senses were tingling... I knew someone, somewhere was grossly misinterpreting a discussion I had with them some months ago!

Perhaps a little detail that has been conveniently overlooked was that, if I recall accurately, I quit the skype chat into which I had been invited by the USI directors of the time, due to certain people there not making any sense at all and completely ignoring certain aspects of the feedback I had offered concerning USI's 3M concept.

I would care to note that at the time of the discussion, I don't think the Faction Creation Rules had been updated, and thus the possibility for Official Factions to use a secondary ID (it had to be generic) was still there. I did not at any stage "give express permission" or similar indications of approval; I might have said something along the lines of "do what you want" because I had neither the inclination nor the authority to stop them from their own faction business and was swiftly becoming frustrated with a certain stubborn attitude being displayed.

However, given the Faction Creation Rules being updated, the whole concept is rendered moot since secondary IDs no longer exist (as well as the potential for confusing loopholes).

As for "being a nobody" - well, I'm sure that comment was just made in the heat of the moment. I appreciate that players might like to consult with me / get my opinion on lore-related matters, and it was in this capacity that the USI directors contacted me at the time. Amusingly enough, on occasion a few players have erroneously assumed that I was an Admin, but I'm sure the USI directors were under no such illusion.

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There was a sig here, once.

[US|]

Supporting Liberty Since 150 A.S

RE: Universal Shipping Incorporated
This is blatant abuse of miner ID.

http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=1746

Attempting to circumvent 1 ID per faction rule is like multiboxing.

USI is a shipping company, that is all. You're nothing more, nothing less.

If USI starts mining, what is the point in DSE/IMG/Junkers?

Loneshark came to me saying Echo 7-7 gave them express permissions to do this:

The current executive Administration has deliberated and discussed the matter and reviewed the available information but due of a total lack of communication with the parties responsible. they have been forced to conclude that correct procedure was ignored by the Executive Administration at the time of the creation of the 3M. The blame of this the issue falls on current president Michael Trenton and Ex-VP Charles Bell as they were in charge of the company when the 3M was created. The decision of the current Executive Administration is as follows:

1. The [*USI*]3M is disbanded, and all references and other material will be removed for the neural net.

2. The Executive Administration requests that the ships involved be detagged and returned to USI as they still are our property.

3. The Executive Administration officially apologizes to the community for the violations of the ID rule.

4. The Executive Administration accepts any punishments and/or fines levied against us for this violation.

Signed,
Tam Nyund
Chief of Staff
Universal Shipping, Inc.

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