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Raymond
09-19-2014, 11:15 AM,
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I can't believe you're still sinking effort into Gallia. How about you invest it into things that actually have a chance of people wanting to play there?
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Offline Thyrzul
09-19-2014, 01:27 PM,
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Who are you?

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Offline M.Serrault
09-23-2014, 02:29 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-23-2014, 02:32 PM by M.Serrault.)
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Some here want Gallia to be resized, actually drastically downsized.
Even though I do understand the way they think, they're simply wrong.


From a psychological perspective, this will not change anything for the better.


As the reasons for Gallia being a bit "underpopulated" are based on humans nature, and nothing else.

It's not the size, not the location or anything else but just that, humans like to stick to what they're used to, humans like to band together.

These are the major reasons why the core (old) systems of Sirius, in particular Liberty, are so busy and always will be.

And no matter what the devs will do, they won't be able to gain a remarkable change of this typical human (common) behaviour.

So just leave Gallia (almost) as it is, get some minor bugs like the reputation-setup of Gallic Junkers etc. fixed, and you'll be fine.

The ones that don't care for Gallia won't ever really care for it, no matter what you do to Gallia, and the ones that like Gallia the way it is will be upset if there will be too big changes that go far beyond bugfixing.


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Offline Fluffyball
09-23-2014, 03:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-23-2014, 03:05 PM by Fluffyball.)
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Simple: Make reason for players to visit Gallia.

After all, I am the only one that thinks that Gallia should be limited to five systems, as IN LORE Gallia isn't even a Sirius Sector? You know, Gallic Gallia and Sirian Gallia sectors. :|

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Offline Thyrzul
09-23-2014, 04:00 PM,
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(09-23-2014, 03:04 PM)Toji-Haku Wrote: Gallia should be limited to five systems, as IN LORE Gallia isn't even a Sirius Sector? You know, Gallic Gallia and Sirian Gallia sectors. :|

Umm, what?

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Offline Fluffyball
09-23-2014, 04:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-23-2014, 04:13 PM by Fluffyball.)
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(09-23-2014, 04:00 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:
(09-23-2014, 03:04 PM)Toji-Haku Wrote: Gallia should be limited to five systems, as IN LORE Gallia isn't even a Sirius Sector? You know, Gallic Gallia and Sirian Gallia sectors. :|

Umm, what?

The space, where Gallia is present, is not considered (astronomically) Sirius Sector, but a different one.

Quote:The Gallic Sector, astronomically independent of Sirius, is split into the Core Worlds and Border Worlds. Gallia is located some 700 light years to the northwest of Bretonia.
While:
Quote:With its (Sirius Sector) center approximately 1000 light years away from the Sun (...)
What is claimed a VERY long distance in lore of the Freelancer. And I don't think that Sirius Sector exceeds 200-250 light years. Perhaps even less.

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Offline Thyrzul
09-23-2014, 04:32 PM,
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By lore it's size equals one and a half Sirian House, in what way would that justify shrinking Gallia to five systems?

And then quoting half of what would support your point but sharing only your own assumptions about the other half of it isn't really convincing. Why do you think it matters if you think "that Sirius Sector exceeds 200-250 light years" or not? I think it exceeds 1500 lightyears and then we are at a stalemate unless you quote the Lore again.

And I kindly ask you that next time specify your sources, please.

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Offline Binski
09-23-2014, 04:44 PM,
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Gallia seems to be winning the conventional war, but I think the allies will score the doomsday weapon to turn the tide. That, or in a year Sirius will be New Gallia. I don't advise that unless we want a mass migration out of sirius (and we know that means).

Splinter Gallia like the roman empire after its fall. Open it up to Sirian Colonization! Then people will actually go there! Groups like the Maquis, Council, UC, start claiming systems, and perhaps finally start squabbling among themselves for territory.

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09-23-2014, 04:50 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-23-2014, 04:53 PM by Fluffyball.)
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(09-23-2014, 04:32 PM)Thyrzul Wrote:
By lore it's size equals one and a half Sirian House, in what way would that justify shrinking Gallia to five systems?

And then quoting half of what would support your point but sharing only your own assumptions about the other half of it isn't really convincing. Why do you think it matters if you think "that Sirius Sector exceeds 200-250 light years" or not? I think it exceeds 1500 lightyears and then we are at a stalemate unless you quote the Lore again.

And I kindly ask you that next time specify your sources, please.

I can't find source now, but I believe it was once stated by Microsoft // Digital Anvil that Sirius Sector should not exceed 500 light years for sure. All in all, we must ask original creator of Freelancer to clear that matter, since Sirius (I mean the shape here, not nebulaes or actual names) has been based onto real place in space, as seen from Earth. Smile

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Offline Highland Laddie
09-23-2014, 05:06 PM,
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(09-23-2014, 04:44 PM)TheUnforgiven Wrote: Gallia seems to be winning the conventional war, but I think the allies will score the doomsday weapon to turn the tide. That, or in a year Sirius will be New Gallia. I don't advise that unless we want a mass migration out of sirius (and we know that means).

Splinter Gallia like the roman empire after its fall. Open it up to Sirian Colonization! Then people will actually go there! Groups like the Maquis, Council, UC, start claiming systems, and perhaps finally start squabbling among themselves for territory.

Well, it's hard to really determine what "winning the conventional war" actually means. They've managed to take some systems, sure, but not necessarily capitalize on gaining the large amount of resources they need to maintain their war machine. Leeds certainly has to be draining and demoralizing them to an extent (I think of Leeds as the Stalingrad of the war).

I couldn't imagine it would be too long a time before some officers in the GRN would begin questioning their loyalty to King Charles, and may even see more of a shift towards the Council, which would pave the way for more of an Gallic Civil war focus and relieve the pressure off Sirius. I think your Roman Empire analogy is a good one in that respect, although, I could easily see the Council re-absorbing the Maquis movement if there managed to be a sizeable break up of the Kingdom of Gallia, since they would have no real reason to oppose one-another.
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