The DaemonS and The Seraphim

[Shizune]

I see...
Well until I get an ID, I keep getting random twonks hassling me about my Faction affiliation, and why I am flying an Order Ship...?

Order ships are illegal in nearly all houses and by most house's; the Order are terrorists which inRP we uphold that. If your flying it in Liberty, then your an unlawful as the ship is illegal there, as well as in Bretoina, Gallia and Kusarian space, as a matter of fact, just flying one can get you shot down for flying just the ship alone; even if its FL ID'ed

Also inRP, if its a FL ID'ed Order ship, then thats a OORP vessel now as freelancers do not have access to Order ships unless your a covert Order agent working for one of the main Order factions, I.E; O'Rhu, Order| and 141st (Who are part of the Order| now) and I am in the Order|, we've given no permission for a freelancer to use said ship, so by our standards, this faction stole our tech, your are now an Order enemy

Edit: What I'm getting is at this; The Order tech can only be used by people permitted to use them by the Order or unless you are part of the Order. It does not matter if you say your allied or not, it all matters to the primary faction saying if you can use our tech or not, and sense you did not ask, you can be called an enemy of the Order for stealing our tech

Also in other words, you might as well paint the ship name "KILL.ME.NOW" because to be honest, Order hand trillions of enemies in Sirius who'd kill us just for seeing us, that includes house agents, navy, police, some corporations, freelancers, mercs, pirates, corsairs, AI's, outcasts, nomads, das wild, some zoner's even.

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Lyoko Project Files
Project's Leader Aelita X. Stone.

[Diablo666Daemon666]

But after The Order saved everyones asses in the Nomad War, their official faction ID description now says they are a Covert Organization....not a band of terrorists...
The Order are now respected by most people, and therefore should not be banished from ANY houses. Nor should anyone be attacked for using their ships.

Plus, most people tend to ignore my use of the ship, (including Liberty Navy, Liberty Police and The Order) and the only person who pointed it out was a Liberty Navy guy...in a Bretonian Battleship...in Liberty Space.
Surely thats wrong...?

Some people also take the RP side a little too seriously, openly attacking ANYONE from an opposing faction without saying a word. This is a breach of the server rules...?

If we are RPing, then we are pretending to be part of who we are allied to...? Surely as an RP community, we can all see that The Order should not still be treated the same as they were. And in this time of war with Gallia...we need to UNITE, this means combining Pilots, Technology, Weaponry and Ships...to fight a common enemy.

THIS is what The Seraphim are trying to do...remember...? UNITE the Houses against a common foe.
This is ALSO what The DaemonS intend...however, we have other, underlying reasons for wanting this...

Devious little DaemonS... *Smiles with quiet mischief*

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.

[Thyrzul]

What they are considered as and what they actually are are two different things. I believe you seriously need to get up to date on Disco lore first, though that should be a default to anybody, especially if they decide to draw up factions from out of the blue...

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[Shizune]

But after The Order saved everyones asses in the Nomad War, their official faction ID description now says they are a Covert Organization....not a band of terrorists...
The Order are now respected by most people, and therefore should not be banished from ANY houses. Nor should anyone be attacked for using their ships.

Plus, most people tend to ignore my use of the ship, (including Liberty Navy, Liberty Police and The Order) and the only person who pointed it out was a Liberty Navy guy...in a Bretonian Battleship...in Liberty Space.
Surely thats wrong...?

Some people also take the RP side a little too seriously, openly attacking ANYONE from an opposing faction without saying a word. This is a breach of the server rules...?

If we are RPing, then we are pretending to be part of who we are allied to...? Surely as an RP community, we can all see that The Order should not still be treated the same as they were. And in this time of war with Gallia...we need to UNITE, this means combining Pilots, Technology, Weaponry and Ships...to fight a common enemy.

THIS is what The Seraphim are trying to do...remember...? UNITE the Houses against a common foe.
This is ALSO what The DaemonS intend...however, we have other, underlying reasons for wanting this...

Devious little DaemonS... *Smiles with quiet mischief*

If we are RPing, then we are pretending to be part of who we are allied to...? Surely as an RP community, we can all see that The Order should not still be treated the same as they were. And in this time of war with Gallia...we need to UNITE, this means combining Pilots, Technology, Weaponry and Ships...to fight a common enemy.

Order will never ally with house forces unless the admiral himself Okays it and its the Overwatch's (Order primary leaders) choice to say no which he did.

And no, Order don't share tech unless your a specially permitted zoner of some crap like that, I agree with Thy, read the history, the Order are now terrorists by disco's standards and that won't ever change, Trent is dead, Juni is gone, King is back in the LSF, Orillion died, yada yada. Oh ya, and Planet Toledo was blown up by the nomads and the LN didn't care. Most of the Order are in covert missions all over Sirius doing stuff like that, so no, we just don't fight Nomads, we fight...Corsairs, Outcast's, LSF, BDM (ONLY IF NEEDED), KNF, KSP, Kusari intel force, BIS, BAF, GRN, GRP, Reavers, Reapers, Das Wild, Aoi Isijien, D9, many freelancers, Bounty Hunters, BHG core, SCRA, Gaian's and many more.

Our only allies? Zoner's, GMG, LWB, parts of Rheinland and the Blood Dragons, thats it

Plus, most people tend to ignore my use of the ship, (including Liberty Navy, Liberty Police and The Order) and the only person who pointed it out was a Liberty Navy guy...in a Bretonian Battleship...in Liberty Space.
Surely thats wrong...?

if it was [LN] tagged, then your in trouble, and yes, Bretoina and Liberty primary forces share tech, including carriers, dreads, battleships and more.

THIS is what The Seraphim are trying to do...remember...? UNITE the Houses against a common foe.

You and the...SCRA...Order...LWB...SRF...Sirius Alliance Front Army...O'Rhu...and many many others, this is nothing new to be honest.

This is ALSO what The DaemonS intend...however, we have other, underlying reasons for wanting this...

Basicly your becoming the Reapers of Sirius who already exist

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Lyoko Project Files
Project's Leader Aelita X. Stone.

[Omicron]

You need to keep to the canon.

There are no more than 2 intelligent species operating in Sirius - Nomads and Humans, 3 if you include AI. Anything more will not be respected around here and wont be a material to be considered a valid faction to stick around for long.

The Order - despite saving everyone - never received recognition it "deserves". They're grey knights with "ends justify the means" ideology which makes them a lot of enemies over time. They're not interested in sector wide peace, religion or politics - their only concern is survival of mankind as a species. That saying, due to hostility of the only non-human race in Sirius, they would eradicate sign of every non-human intelligence they encounter, should any be added by any chance. Supremacy of humanity/The Order over everything else is the easiest way to accomplish Order goals. This conflicts with other factions striving to rule Sirius in their own image or attempting to shake the balance not to The Order's liking.

As neither an ally to us (Speaking as leader of Order| here) or an actual member of The Order, chances to not get shot by Order| folk when flying non-approved Order ships are very slim. Perhaps your illusion comes from the fact that some indies simply don't care about it. The Order| will attack you, crossing out any possibility of peace with said group.

Also, it's bad form to consider yourself an ally to a faction without contacting leadership of it beforehand. Start off from a clean state. It's hardly an alliance when the other group considers you neutral or perhaps even a menace to be destroyed. Don't make yourself any hopes for getting any more systems added, we have WAY too many of them as it is.

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[Diablo666Daemon666]

the Order are now terrorists by disco's standards and that won't ever change.

As I have previously said...I DONT CARE ABOUT DISCO...they're SHIT.
They do nothing but argue and kill at will for NO reason.
I spent 30 minutes on their server, and wanted to kill every twat currently playing!!

And, NO, I am NOT trying to be "The Reapers" of Sirius, at all. Whatever that means.

According to the Order ID they are no longer TERRORISTS...and as such, they, and their ships, should be allowed to roam FREELY around Sirius. They are War heroes...they deserve respect...from EVERYONE.

Also, as I said, we are RPing. WE are pretending to be PART of a faction, not their LEADERS.
Just because you join The Junkers, it doesnt mean you can stop everyone coming to your bases or using your stuff... you dont OWN them, you just work for them.

And when a guy threatens a FIGHTER with a BATTLESHIP...thats pure bullying...whether they're right or not.
Although...what do you expect from LIBERTY... (The place name is a MASSIVE contradiction)

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.

[Diablo666Daemon666]

Ah, so you invite people to write long complicated shit about new factions...
And then say "oh no you cant do this" "That wouldnt work within the current game" "The players wouldnt accept this"
Blah blah blah...

Well, lets poke holes in other factions shall we...?
Guard factions are pointless, stupid, and needlessly restrict access to certaion systems for NO reason.
The coalition are terrible.
The core is a crappy pile of crap.
Every HUMAN that I have seen in the Liberty Navy is a bit of a prick...
I know TWO Junkers, one is ok and the other is a complete arse who attacks without warning and then runs off like a snivelling coward when you nearly destroy his ship...

Need I continue...?
And dont get me started on certain Faction RULES...
I think, when compared to other players in other factions...my factions, and my ideas, are quite sensible.

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.

[Diablo666Daemon666]

Oh...and I put that we are allied with the order because I AM allied with the Order.
I have a full green alliance ststus with them...mainly due to the fact that I killed shedloads of Nomads, and quite a few Bounty Hunters too!
As a storyline goes, since I helped them so much, what would stop them giving me a ship if my one was damaged or lost during a fight...on their side...? That sounds plausible, and an alliance does too!
I dont have to ASK permission from PLAYERS to claim to be allied with a Faction they are part of...

And about the DaemonS... Screw it...how about this...
You have this Bounty Board system right? Where people can post the names of people they want attacked...?

The DaemonS can be the contract assassins of the Sirius Sectors...?
The GenoHaradan, The Hashshashin, Assassins, Bounty Killers...whatever you want to call them.
There you go. The DaemonS faction: a ruthless band of Assassins, which would ALSO account for why we are enemies of the Bounty Hunters! We're stealing their jobs!

Much easier than a bunch of trans-dimensional beings who cant ever get home. Because THAT obviously goes against EVERY principle of a game that somhow has turned into a RPG...yet was created long before you guys even MADE this!!
Because we ALL know there can only ever be ONE set of aliens (or non-humans) in a game about OUTER SPACE??

Oh...and you say there's only humans, nomads and robots...? What about the monkeys of PRIMUS...?

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.

[Savas]

You should probably leave.

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[Diablo666Daemon666]

I know this guy, he is creating a faction of people from Texas...
They're meant to be rebelling because of the war against Liberty.

They protest, they riot, they attack the police...
They fight the Navy, steal their ships and use them against their own.

Sounds like an ok faction idea... Freedom fighters.
They fight the corrupt Liberty Government...I think I'll ally with them...if they ever get THEIR faction ID.
(Which they wont. Any faction that seems to want to change anything story-wise can build flat pack furniture apparently)

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.