The DaemonS and The Seraphim

[Diablo666Daemon666]

I meant an infected human with another infected one, not with a regular one...

Unless your a member of Das Wilde, Aoi Isijien, the Gallic Infected, D9 or the other infected/spector's; This won't happen.

Infected persons are controlled by primary faction's as well and only K'Hara leadership are allowed to infect people upon their request.

Not to mention most infected are sterile anyways so they can't have kids, even if they did, their infected and follow the orders of the nomads anyways (the kids)

You've not brought this up with the K'Hara or the Infected factions for this to even begin to work anyways as infected people are all nomadic RP.

But going back, in discovery, never once has infected personal 'mated' with other unless it was some primary faction RP.

But it also comes down to this, your infected or your parents are? The Order will kill you and everything you stand for before you get the chance to open your mouth; we don't care if your peaceful, we don't care if your not hostile, we don't even care if your our friend, we will still shoot you for just being infected

I still think Human-Nomad descendants would be a good idea, and would fit...in theory, with the general lore and history. I just have to make sure the dates, and specific informations are correct.
Any help with THAT would be greatly appreciated...

Unless you bring it up to Yuri or Moveit56, it won't happen. Like; ever, their the leaders of nomadic RP and unless they show it and tell you, it won't happen.

Again, unless Moveit56 or Yuri lets you, it won't happen

This would have happened before and during the war, and fearing what might happen to them (death) they would flee.
Therefore, I wouldnt need to talk to ANY of these other people or factions.

The idea would work, the idea would fit, and there's cause for mystery. Nobody know who they are, how many there are, or where they are...

"Not to mention most infected are sterile anyways so they can't have kids, even if they did, their infected and follow the orders of the nomads anyways (the kids)"
"But going back, in discovery, never once has infected personal 'mated' with other unless it was some primary faction RP."
Not sure what you mean here, but...shouldn't that be...
"None have mated successfully THAT WE KNOW OF."

NEVER rule out a possibility just because someone hasnt used the idea.
Order allying with Corsairs wouldn't have ever happened either...but it has.

The Wild, a race that has NEVER been mentioned once..suddenly arrives...and nobody seems to mind.
Galia, who suddenly sprang up in a bunch of new systems, just suddenly are there and start a war...? Nobody knows why they're FRENCH, nobody knows where the CAME FROM, and they certainly did NON arrive on the Sleeper ships...

If several factions, that were apparently there the whole time, can suddenly pop up...what harm is one more...? Same kind of idea, nobody knew they were there.
Their "being discovered" would have to be by a chance encounter, a lost ship stumbling upon them, an invasion, a war declaration, or the aggressive defence of a System by "unknown hostile forces"...

Creating a whole new race...might not work.
Implying that this race emerged years ago and was hidden...seems to work.
Problem solved.

I am putting the same idea to the OTHER Freelancer RP server...
And, on there, I already have someone they could be allied to...and they have agreed,
So if it makes it as a Faction there...we will have an ally (which means more bases to land on)

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.

[|nfrared]

Lets get this straight.

The main problem you are having (and it is very much the same problem I ran into with the Etherium) is that you are basically trying to retcon yourself into other people's lore. As stated above, Yuri and Moveit56 hold monopoly on Nomad lore. Anything you try and implement will have to go through them as they are the official channels.

In short, you cannot change the past. Anything you want to implement needs to start from present day (821 AS)

If you want to implement this here you cannot do it with the approval of the official faction, due to the way nomads operate.

IMHO, the idea itself has merit but the implementation as an entire faction isn't appropriate. If you wanted to actually RP this in a way that makes sense, apply for an SRP - AFTER DOING SOME RESEARCH AND CONSULTING WITH THE TWO NAMED ABOVE - and take it from there.

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Shard - The Faceless One

[Diablo666Daemon666]

A SRP...? Whats one of those then??

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.

[|nfrared]

SRP...???

Special Roleplay Requests

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Shard - The Faceless One

[Diablo666Daemon666]

My faction, as it should be, doesnt rely on CURRENT factions and leaders. It relies on the principles set by the ACTUAL Freelancer game. Nomads infest humans, and take control of them.

There is NO information ANYWHERE that says two Nomab infested people wouldnt mate.
There is NO information ANYWHERE that says these people wouldn't have a child.
There is NO information ANYWHERE that says this child wouldnt grow up with Nomad abilities.

Its a lot like the plots of the Species movies...
In the FIRST one, a girl (named Sil) is created from human and alien DNA...she has a child, and she is killed. The child is Human, but has the alien abilities.
In the SECOND one, another girl (named Eve) is made from the same method, and a man (called Patrick) is infected by the same species (apparently) while on Mars. They eventually mate and she is pregnant. Both are killed. The child is born after her death, it is human but it has the alien abilities.
In the THIRD film...all hell breaks loose, with various different hybrids and stuff. All with the alien abilities, even though some were from Sil's child, some were from Patrick and Eve's child...and some were the descendants of children Patrick had with random women (although we are to believe that all of Patricks children were killed...classic plot hole there).

Now... Sil and Eve are the same as each other, and both have a child. One with a regular human, and the other with an infected human. Both children are born the same way, they both look human and they both have the same alien abilities.

Thats like my idea. But in the Freelancer universe, with Nomads and not...whatever these aliens were called.
Why would I need to ask ANY Nomad "leaders" about it, just because they apparently lead them NOW?
No, they Don't!
They dont lead them, they don't own them, and they don't own the right to dictate what happens to them.
Especially when this would have happened BEFORE they even became Nomad "leaders".

Like I said: My idea relies on the principles set by the ACTUAL Freelancer game.
Nomads infest humans, and take control of them.

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.

[Diablo666Daemon666]

Ha...
How about this (I got it from reading about the Nomads)...

The Daam K'vosh...
Why doesn't my faction simply be the Daam K'vosh...?
Nobody knows what they really are, nobody knows where they went, nobody knows whether they are even still alive.
That doesn't mean they're dead though...it means NOBODY KNOWS. There is a difference.

Say they came back...somehow...what then?
They would do all kinds of stuff to help the Nomads once again, and maybe the Wild too...
All "human" factions would see them as a "new" enemy, or at least a "new threat".
Some would probably even call them...Daemons...*cough*

The creation (or re-creation) of THAT Faction doesn't require any permission from current Nomad "leaders".
It ACTUALLY fits with the history too. The only snag is explaining HOW they came back and WHERE they've been up until this point (which would also explain why they didn't return sooner).

Actually...along those same lines...
What made the Robots on Gammu?
What caused there to be Monkeys on Primus?
And, more importantly, what HAPPENED to whatever these things were...?
I smell two more "new" Factions...

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.

[Diablo666Daemon666]

SRP...???

Special Roleplay Requests

Wouldnt that be SRR...?
Or SRPR...?

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.

[Wildkins]

SRP...???

Special Roleplay Requests

Wouldnt that be SRR...?
Or SRPR...?

SRP refers to "Special Roleplay". SRP requests are requests to have SRPs.

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RP Feedback

[|nfrared]

Ha...
How about this (I got it from reading about the Nomads)...

The Daam K'vosh...
Why doesn't my faction simply be the Daam K'vosh...?
Nobody knows what they really are, nobody knows where they went, nobody knows whether they are even still alive.
That doesn't mean they're dead though...it means NOBODY KNOWS. There is a difference.

Say they came back...somehow...what then?
They would do all kinds of stuff to help the Nomads once again, and maybe the Wild too...
All "human" factions would see them as a "new" enemy, or at least a "new threat".
Some would probably even call them...Daemons...*cough*

The creation (or re-creation) of THAT Faction doesn't require any permission from current Nomad "leaders".

*Chokes to death on popcorn*

WRONG WRONG WRONG!

SUGGESTION - If you're going to open a feedback thread, actually listen to the feedback provided. You cannot tamper with Nomad lore for the last time . You cannot retcon yourself into existing lore for the last time. This is just painful to watch, seriously.

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Shard - The Faceless One

[Diablo666Daemon666]

*Chokes to death on popcorn*

WRONG WRONG WRONG!

SUGGESTION - If you're going to open a feedback thread, actually listen to the feedback provided. You cannot tamper with Nomad lore for the last time . You cannot retcon yourself into existing lore for the last time. This is just painful to watch, seriously.

You cannot tamper with Nomad lore.
You cannot retcon yourself into existing lore.

No idea what retcon means, but everything that was written about the Nomads AFTER the Nomad War has all been made up. The original Freelancer game creators ddnt say THIS is what was going to happen after the war, they ENDED the game there.
So, everything that has "happened" since then, with ALL factions, is basically just a MASSIVE "tampering".
Albeit a MOD creators idea of what "would" (or rather COULD) have happened since the Nomad War.

Saying that I cant tamper with something that has already been tampered with is just...contradictory.

And, as I said, it is NOT tampering...
Observe...

FACT: The Daam K'vosh existed, but left...for some reason.
FACT: Nomads infest humans, and can control them.
CONJECTURE: Nomad controlled Humans can mate and produce hybrid children.

FACT: There is NOTHING that says the Daam K'vosh can NEVER return.
FACT: There is NOTHING to say that Nomad infested humans cant mate.
CONJECTURE: The child of two infested humans would have some Nomad properties.

FACT: There was NO mention of "The Wild" before the faction was created.
FACT: There was also NO mention of "The DaemonS" before I created it.
CONJECTURE: If one can simply be ADDED into the Nomad "lore", so can the other.

FACT: My idea has merit...as you, and others, have said.
FACT: I do not possess the ability to pitch this idea correctly.
CONJECTURE: My inability to make a good pitch means my idea is rubbish.

I think that all speaks for itself...
The facts ARE correct, and can NOT be disputed.
The conjecture is different. It cannot be proven as TRUE, but it also cannot be proven as FALSE. Claiming its FALSE when no proof is available, is not in-keeping with the CURRENT version of the game...especially since a lot of NEW factions have been introduced. Some of which, althouh seeming like good ideas, do not "fit" within the RP parameters, or with the game as a whole.

The Wild, The Reapers, The Core, The Coalition...and GALLIA being prime examples there!
Not to mention, once again, that The Reapers is VERY similar to the idea I originally had for "The DaemonS".

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"He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past."
- Kane, Brotherhood Of NOD.