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Why must you do this to Bretonia!
Offline Sath
01-16-2015, 03:54 PM,
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Goodness me. Templar does quite well for a VHF, Dunkirk is also good. To top that, the Bretonian HF is awesome. Crecy was quite OP imo. The reason GRN win most of the time, is because they have good coordination. Not because Bretonian ships are weak (in fact, Bret shipline is either equal/better than Gallic shipline)
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Offline t0l
01-16-2015, 03:54 PM,
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(01-16-2015, 03:47 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:43 PM)Tal Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:34 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: If pilots just use the LABC they may as well delete the crecy. It's going to be worse anyways.

they may as well delete the LSC anyways because it's useless

worst case scenario bump LABC up to "Allied Battlecruiser" tech cell with 100% for both LN and BAF

I guess you can't change everything, but I still hope crecey doesn't get nerfed.

are you 5

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Offline Wesker
01-16-2015, 03:58 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-16-2015, 04:39 PM by Wesker.)
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(01-16-2015, 03:54 PM)Tal Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:47 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:43 PM)Tal Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:34 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: If pilots just use the LABC they may as well delete the crecy. It's going to be worse anyways.

they may as well delete the LSC anyways because it's useless

worst case scenario bump LABC up to "Allied Battlecruiser" tech cell with 100% for both LN and BAF

I guess you can't change everything, but I still hope crecey doesn't get nerfed.

are you 5

Lolwut I'm just saying I don't want a ship nerfed I'm not gonna crying about it, if they nerf it they nerf it, I just said I hope they don't.

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Offline Haste
01-16-2015, 04:02 PM,
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When it comes to ship balance, objective data such as shape, size, crosshair placement and stats are taken into account moreso than the performance of the factions using them.

Review the Crecy according to the above variables and you will see why the ship has been mentioned before as one that needs a little tweaking.

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Offline Wesker
01-16-2015, 04:03 PM,
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(01-16-2015, 03:54 PM)Moriarty. Wrote: Goodness me. Templar does quite well for a VHF, Dunkirk is also good. To top that, the Bretonian HF is awesome. Crecy was quite OP imo. The reason GRN win most of the time, is because they have good coordination. Not because Bretonian ships are weak (in fact, Bret shipline is either equal/better than Gallic shipline)

Lynx seems better from what I have seen, I love Kirk I won't lie I think it's great but not OP. I also think gallic ships kinda do out-do that of bretonia's, Kirk has good TS, but a good strafer in a valor is crazy, valor has crazy FG superior armor and firepower. There not crazy OP, there beatable but I think they kinda out-do the brets in many situations.

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Offline Sath
01-16-2015, 04:05 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-16-2015, 04:05 PM by Sath.)
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Lynx is surely not better than Paladin. But yeah, the people using Lynx are better, which makes you say so.

*looks in the direction of Omi and Haste*
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Offline Wesker
01-16-2015, 04:06 PM,
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(01-16-2015, 04:02 PM)Haste Wrote: When it comes to ship balance, objective data such as shape, size, crosshair placement and stats are taken into account moreso than the performance of the factions using them.

Review the Crecy according to the above variables and you will see why the ship has been mentioned before as one that needs a little tweaking.

Hit box fix I don't care about all ships should have that balanced it's really the stats I'm worried about I don't think it should be nerfed.

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Offline Highland Laddie
01-16-2015, 04:07 PM,
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(01-16-2015, 03:50 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:46 PM)Pavel Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:42 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: Pavel, both, in the storyline Bretonia is getting destroyed. In terms of actual fights between players gallia has won much more.

Bretonia is not getting "destroyed", its storyline progresses. "Bretonia is getting destroyed" or "Texasburg" mindsets need to go away. Players shouldn't think in such categories.

Than enlighten me on what is happening please? (Sorry I'm slightly getting into the storyline I've only been here like 4 months) from the looks of it Bretonia is in a struggle. Also I herd in the update gallia will expand that's why I though they were getting wrecked also.

This was how I saw the RP going:

Bretonia is not getting "destroyed" per-se inRP. They've lost one major system with Leeds, and have been pushed out of the Taus. That being done, their defenses are now much more concentrated (and therefore, a bit more difficult to penetrate), while the GRN have been stalled somewhat in trying to pacify Leeds, and have also shifted their attention over towards Liberty, leaving Bretonia aside to deliver the "knockout blow" later.

Meanwhile the BAF is scrambling to churn out ships at an alarming rate for the final confrontation, which is also easier for them to do compared to the Gallia, who is also suffering from a lack of resources, which for now hasn't been too much of a problem, since their fleet size is large enough to absorb losses and keep going. But this will eventually catch up with them.
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Offline Highland Laddie
01-16-2015, 04:09 PM,
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Quote:Lynx is surely not better than Paladin. But yeah, the people using Lynx are better, which makes you say so.

Have you flown either, Mory? Lynx is definitely better than the Paladin. The Templar holds its own a bit better in the hands of good pilots, of which we do have a deficit.
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Offline Wesker
01-16-2015, 04:10 PM,
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(01-16-2015, 04:07 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:50 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:46 PM)Pavel Wrote:
(01-16-2015, 03:42 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: Pavel, both, in the storyline Bretonia is getting destroyed. In terms of actual fights between players gallia has won much more.

Bretonia is not getting "destroyed", its storyline progresses. "Bretonia is getting destroyed" or "Texasburg" mindsets need to go away. Players shouldn't think in such categories.

Than enlighten me on what is happening please? (Sorry I'm slightly getting into the storyline I've only been here like 4 months) from the looks of it Bretonia is in a struggle. Also I herd in the update gallia will expand that's why I though they were getting wrecked also.

This was how I saw the RP going:

Bretonia is not getting "destroyed" per-se inRP. They've lost one major system with Leeds, and have been pushed out of the Taus. That being done, their defenses are now much more concentrated (and therefore, a bit more difficult to penetrate), while the GRN have been stalled somewhat in trying to pacify Leeds, and have also shifted their attention over towards Liberty, leaving Bretonia aside to deliver the "knockout blow" later.

Meanwhile the BAF is scrambling to churn out ships at an alarming rate for the final confrontation, which is also easier for them to do compared to the Gallia, who is also suffering from a lack of resources, which for now hasn't been too much of a problem, since their fleet size is large enough to absorb losses and keep going. But this will eventually catch up with them.

Ok thanks for the clarification. I though they were still focusing there efforts on Bretonia. I though Bretonia was super low on caps too.

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