ALG Waste Disposal - [ALG] Feedback Thread

[Karst]

Feedback from people other than Alte is appreciated. Please keep things on topic here.

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[Vigilia.Procuratio]

The fight started near the lanes in Colorado. It's not like an ALG ship rolled into Cassini to shoot things.

I did consider that and it certainly changes my impression. Personally, I'd resume the convoy and stay well clear of a hostile guard system. But that's just my philosophy - you had the right to pursue so there's not really much to debate.

[Tutashkhia]

If you want to QQ about being shot by ALG in Rheinland, please deal with it.

Just a healthy feedback is what you call QQ? This is a Feedback thread and I'm being all righteous in all feedback threads. Read my previous post in this thread. When it was to say positive feedback I did it. But now, I didn't like something from an OFFICIAL faction, and I do hope you'll discuss about my, for now, negative feedback.

I was shot by ALG in Rheinland some days ago, and that time I made a positive feedback. Yesterday I was shot without a least warning or RP. I realize that you were in fight against some outnumbered Hessians and you wouldn't RP quite much. But if you are going to shoot someone, just warn him at least.

Thanks.

P.S And ye, 2 or 3 days ago I encountered an ALG transport in Cambridge system,and I would say it was one of the best trader encounters I've ever had on Tutashkhia char.

[Lythrilux]

@Alte
ALG was just taking out the garbage, Alte.

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[Pancakes]

Welp, I guess I have both good things and bad things to say.

Let's start with the bad things - I often see your gunboat(s? not sure if's the same one or a few of them) in Kusari, acting a like a Sirius police - both on my lawful and unlawful characters. If that's the path you wish to take - by all means ignore this feedback. I however believe it's a little bit going out of your roleplay lines, at least in my opinion. Your paramilitary and security wings should be there in order to protect your own ships, or assist perhaps the local Rheinland police, but definitely not the Kusari one.

The good things - I for most part enjoyed my encounters with you folks so far, and even when I did encounter the Gunboat(s?) mentioned previously, the roleplay is not something that I can say was bad. So, in that account - keep doing what you are doing.

And if I look on the overall scheme of things? I think you are doing rather good job.

[Siren Stone]

Feedback from people other than Alte is appreciated. Please keep things on topic here.

OK, since Alte isn't allowed to post in this thread under the authority of disdain and anger, then I guess I will take his place at the podium given my prodigal rights as the player that was killed in Cassini by the aforementioned ALG. Your joining the fight to begin with was out of RP, according to your own faction relations chart, ALG are hostile to Lib Navy, LSF and Lib Police. So how would joining them in a shootout with the PLR both in your ZOI as well as out of your ZOI in anyway be correct?

The fact that you joined the fight so out of character upsets me given that had you stuck to your own factions rules and RP, then I would not have had to worry about your being there thus the battle would have gone differently. Yes, I would most likely have still died, but who knows.

Stick to the rules set in your ID and Factions RP so this game can be less of a rules lawyering war and more of a fun environment. If you wanted to join the fight, then do so in a legit manner.


EDIT: I apologize for my apparent anger. I actually had a lot of fun during that rather lengthy engagement and was proud to have gone down swinging in the name of the PLR. Should the ALG that dusted my ship ever wish to engage me in a manner that isn't against their factions RP, then I will happily accept it. I'm all about the RP to begin with.

[Karst]

If you want to QQ about being shot by ALG in Rheinland, please deal with it.

Just a healthy feedback is what you call QQ? This is a Feedback thread and I'm being all righteous in all feedback threads. Read my previous post in this thread. When it was to say positive feedback I did it. But now, I didn't like something from an OFFICIAL faction, and I do hope you'll discuss about my, for now, negative feedback.

I was shot by ALG in Rheinland some days ago, and that time I made a positive feedback. Yesterday I was shot without a least warning or RP. I realize that you were in fight against some outnumbered Hessians and you wouldn't RP quite much. But if you are going to shoot someone, just warn him at least.

I didn't mean to sound too harsh, just to emphasize that ALG can and will defend traffic routes within Rheinland.

From what I hear from that encounter, you were joining an already ongoing fight with Hessians. Our gunboat pilot engaged you with no additional RP because they were already in combat, which is fair.

Welp, I guess I have both good things and bad things to say.

Let's start with the bad things - I often see your gunboat(s? not sure if's the same one or a few of them) in Kusari, acting a like a Sirius police - both on my lawful and unlawful characters. If that's the path you wish to take - by all means ignore this feedback. I however believe it's a little bit going out of your roleplay lines, at least in my opinion. Your paramilitary and security wings should be there in order to protect your own ships, or assist perhaps the local Rheinland police, but definitely not the Kusari one.

The good things - I for most part enjoyed my encounters with you folks so far, and even when I did encounter the Gunboat(s?) mentioned previously, the roleplay is not something that I can say was bad. So, in that account - keep doing what you are doing.

And if I look on the overall scheme of things? I think you are doing rather good job.

Not sure what you mean here, we had gunboats flying through Kusari a few times recently, but that was either escorting IMG/ALG convoys, or in one case simply moving the Orkan back to the Taus where it belongs.
If somebody was "acting as police" in Kusari, that is not something I sanctioned.

Feedback from people other than Alte is appreciated. Please keep things on topic here.

OK, since Alte isn't allowed to post in this thread under the authority of disdain and anger, then I guess I will take his place at the podium given my prodigal rights as the player that was killed in Cassini by the aforementioned ALG. Your joining the fight to begin with was out of RP, according to your own faction relations chart, ALG are hostile to Lib Navy, LSF and Lib Police. So how would joining them in a shootout with the PLR both in your ZOI as well as out of your ZOI in anyway be correct?

The fact that you joined the fight so out of character upsets me given that had you stuck to your own factions rules and RP, then I would not have had to worry about your being there thus the battle would have gone differently. Yes, I would most likely have still died, but who knows.

Stick to the rules set in your ID and Factions RP so this game can be less of a rules lawyering war and more of a fun environment. If you wanted to join the fight, then do so in a legit manner.


EDIT: I apologize for my apparent anger. I actually had a lot of fun during that rather lengthy engagement and was proud to have gone down swinging in the name of the PLR. Should the ALG that dusted my ship ever wish to engage me in a manner that isn't against their factions RP, then I will happily accept it. I'm all about the RP to begin with.

Let me begin by saying that ALG is not hostile to Liberty lawfuls, merely somewhat unfriendly. We are permitted to operate in Liberty after all, unlike other Rheinland corporations.
We are, however, hostile to Rogues, especially the PLR which have caused trouble for our Junker Marauder allies.

I understand where you're coming from, and we do not and will not make a habit of assisting lawfuls in Liberty - but every now and then, to show our presence and good intentions and to demonstrate to Liberty that we do have a security presence that can be taken seriously, we have brought combat ships to counter major unlawful groups.

I hope that explains why we do not believe it to be oorp to do such a thing.

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[SpaceTime]

Official factions are guardians of the reputation of their NPC faction in general, and should always seek to act in ways that cause it to be respected.

 

Official factions that are attempting to represent the entirety of a NPC affiliation have the responsibility to be caretakers of the history and evolving storyline of the NPC faction.

Having OORP agreements with the Junker Marauders, by letting them to freely hunt your NPC faction (indies) that [ALG] claims to represent and in return not hunting official ALG is something which is both against the responsibilities of the official factions but also heavily frowned upon by the community.

 

[Jayce]

Official factions are guardians of the reputation of their NPC faction in general, and should always seek to act in ways that cause it to be respected.

 

Official factions that are attempting to represent the entirety of a NPC affiliation have the responsibility to be caretakers of the history and evolving storyline of the NPC faction.

Having OORP agreements with the Junker Marauders, by letting them to freely hunt your NPC faction (indies) that [ALG] claims to represent and in return not hunting official ALG is something which is both against the responsibilities of the official factions but also heavily frowned upon by the community.

 

Pics.

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[Karst]

Official factions are guardians of the reputation of their NPC faction in general, and should always seek to act in ways that cause it to be respected.

 

Official factions that are attempting to represent the entirety of a NPC affiliation have the responsibility to be caretakers of the history and evolving storyline of the NPC faction.

Having OORP agreements with the Junker Marauders, by letting them to freely hunt your NPC faction (indies) that [ALG] claims to represent and in return not hunting official ALG is something which is both against the responsibilities of the official factions but also heavily frowned upon by the community.

I'm a little confused as to what you're asking here.
The agreement we have with JM is inRP, I'll happily dig up relevant threads if you wish to see them. And there is no agreement to let them "freely hunt" our indies, but unless we happen to be around in the same area at the same time or we are contacted about it inRP on the forums or in game, there isn't much we can do about it.
If an indie that isn't of the "jsut kill me pirat" nature gets pirated and contacts us, we'll be happy to take action.

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