Piracy rule revamp, more detail needed

[sindroms]

That is what I am talking about.
If that specific rule was implemented due to unreasonable demands, hit the individual players as the reports come in.
Traders need repercussions if they decide to be smartasses after they pay.

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[Gondoros]

i also have to admit that a trader who paid me once isnt safe from me... i began demanding second or third payments when they start saying some llike f-pirate - get a real ship coward or some like that

making more demands after your initial demand is fulfilled? thats questionable at best, sanction worthy at worst.

No it is no.

If you get insulted after you let go your prey, you go out of your way to show the smartass trader that he is in the bottom on the food chain.

It's worse to use rules as a shield and sword, rather than simply going for genuine and realistic roleplay.

So you are just ignoring the rules cuz you don't like someone talking back then ? You do know that you are wrong no? Like very wrong

3.3 Aggressors are not allowed to issue further demands during the same encounter after the trade vessel has complied, or destroy a trade vessel prior to issuing a demand, in system or local chat. "Halt" on its own is not a demand, however, a trade vessel can be destroyed if they refuse to stop after being asked to in the form of a proper demand.

That is what I am talking about.
If that specific rule was implemented due to unreasonable demands, hit the individual players as the reports come in.
Traders need repercussions if they decide to be smartasses after they pay.

I agree next time you catch them, blow them up before "playing" with them a bit.
I think that is good enough
That is what I do. And when it comes to tagged vessels, if one talks smack i take revenge on all, till i get compensated accordingly.

[Stefan_Steinar]

Sabru Wrote:
(1 hour ago)milano Wrote:
i also have to admit that a trader who paid me once isnt safe from me... i began demanding second or third payments when they start saying some llike f-pirate - get a real ship coward or some like that

making more demands after your initial demand is fulfilled? thats questionable at best, sanction worthy at worst.
No it is no.

If you get insulted after you let go your prey, you go out of your way to show the smartass trader that he is in the bottom on the food chain.

It's worse to use rules as a shield and sword, rather than simply going for genuine and realistic roleplay.

im thinking just the same - i could also demand 20mill from anyone and blow them all up - would that be better than asking for 2 mill for a few times as hes earning way more?

@Gondoros
i know the rules and maybe i should just demand WAY more

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[Doria]

ye... you REALLY know the rules, we can see that... :-|

[Wildkins]

just blow up all the transports
it's not like they pay anyway
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But in all seriousness, it makes sense. If a transport pays you 5.000.000 credits, and then begins to smacktalk you, you should be able to shove antimatter up his tailpipe or demand additional credits. This isn't being unfair to the trader, it's ruling in the direction of common sense.

For a real life example, it'd be like being mugged at gunpoint in the street, handing over your wallet, and then calling the robber a "[insert large quantity of expletive words, phrases, insults, et cetera]", well... you're definitely not acting under the line of common sense, and certainly putting yourself at risk and at the mercy of the now enraged assailant. That same example holds true in the Discovery universe, and perhaps even more so, given the anonymity and increased power divide between a pirate and his corporate transport prey.

tl;dr it makes sense - if traders are going to be idiots, they should be punished accordingly

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[SnakThree]

i also have to admit that a trader who paid me once isnt safe from me... i began demanding second or third payments when they start saying some llike f-pirate - get a real ship coward or some like that

making more demands after your initial demand is fulfilled? thats questionable at best, sanction worthy at worst.

No it is no.

If you get insulted after you let go your prey, you go out of your way to show the smartass trader that he is in the bottom on the food chain.

It's worse to use rules as a shield and sword, rather than simply going for genuine and realistic roleplay.

So you are just ignoring the rules cuz you don't like someone talking back then ? You do know that you are wrong no? Like very wrong

It's called roleplay. If trader chooses to roleplay towards pissing pirate off, he chooses to receive roleplay consequences. Noone forces traders to insult pirates.

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[Gondoros]

i also have to admit that a trader who paid me once isnt safe from me... i began demanding second or third payments when they start saying some llike f-pirate - get a real ship coward or some like that

making more demands after your initial demand is fulfilled? thats questionable at best, sanction worthy at worst.

No it is no.

If you get insulted after you let go your prey, you go out of your way to show the smartass trader that he is in the bottom on the food chain.

It's worse to use rules as a shield and sword, rather than simply going for genuine and realistic roleplay.

So you are just ignoring the rules cuz you don't like someone talking back then ? You do know that you are wrong no? Like very wrong

It's called roleplay. If trader chooses to roleplay towards pissing pirate off, he chooses to receive roleplay consequences. Noone forces traders to insult pirates.

I totally get what you mean and I agree with it, BUT we cannot ignore the rules either. If that particular rule was not present, then a lot of people would start issuing multiple demands. Dudes start abusing when they are given a free hand at directing their RP. You've been here for way longer than I have, so I'm sure you can agree that it would happen.

[Doria]

Folks... I am pretty sure we had that conversation before about repeated demands and all, and I won't search the whole forum afetr it, but if my memory serves me right we had a green font answer stating that if the traders starts to insult the pirate after being robbed it's fair game for the pirate to at least demand the trader to stop and shoot them if they don't. It's like a new interaction, and started by the trader in this specific cases we are talking about now. So, ye, no problem to shoot the guy if you get insulted. BUT, some folks don't get it here, it's not piracy anymore! You can't demand more credits!

[Stefan_Steinar]

I'd say that everytime a trader X comes alone its a new interaction -
i pirate him in Cambridge when hes coming from New london and i pirate X when he comes back from Munich there could be an hour gone or maybe more why should this break a rule?

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