Was gonna edit my post but this can go in one of its own.
If there is something you want to do and it breaks a rule you should ask "hey can I do XYZ" and then once you have been given a reply with words to the effect of "yes" then go ahead and do XYZ.
Rather than doing XYZ and then asking "hey is me doing XYZ cool".
That is like me going around killing someone and then saying "I though the law against murder was obsolete, so you forgive me right"
Whereas the correct way to go about it would be to say "Can I go kill people please" Then when I get told it isn't ok I haven't broken any rules.
as a bystander reading everything, i'll throw my two credits in as well.
1. Let the Admins review, vote and make a ruling on if it is or is not powergaming. Make clear, structured arguments for or against. that's debate 101.
2. look at it this way: "if you send confidential information to someone and they turn around to sell it (or onsend in general) to a competitor, this would be a way to either prevent that or provide a way of proving who passed on the info, if it was found out, to then levy consequences against the leaker."
Also this:
(05-16-2015, 11:42 AM)jammi Wrote: Copy protection prevents people from passing on verifiable and authenticated data. All the metadata and other inRP required information would be missing.
If you took a picture with a camera it certainly wouldn't be admissible as official evidence because DHC would claim it's fabricated and the submitter would have no way to prove otherwise, I guess.
I get why they want to do this, I suppose. Could prevent a certain amount of siliness, especially in regards to corporate warfare and bounties.
(05-16-2015, 01:05 PM)Sabru Wrote: as a bystander reading everything, i'll throw my two credits in as well.
1. Let the Admins review, vote and make a ruling on if it is or is not powergaming. Make clear, structured arguments for or against. that's debate 101.
2. look at it this way: "if you send confidential information to someone and they turn around to sell it (or onsend in general) to a competitor, this would be a way to either prevent that or provide a way of proving who passed on the info, if it was found out, to then levy consequences against the leaker."
Also this:
(05-16-2015, 11:42 AM)jammi Wrote: Copy protection prevents people from passing on verifiable and authenticated data. All the metadata and other inRP required information would be missing.
If you took a picture with a camera it certainly wouldn't be admissible as official evidence because DHC would claim it's fabricated and the submitter would have no way to prove otherwise, I guess.
I get why they want to do this, I suppose. Could prevent a certain amount of siliness, especially in regards to corporate warfare and bounties.
Nail on head.
just my 2 credits.
Yeah the admins should review if this is powergaming or not, and regardless of the RP behind it, it still breaks the other forum rule that I pointed out. In other words, their RP software is not more powerful than the 2 rules that it is breaking.
Edit: To make this clear, I am not saying whether or not the RP justification is there for this to take place, I am saying there are currently 2 forum rules which mean that this should not take place.
Roleplay is meant to be real and feel real.
If you create a situation that feels unreal for all the easy workarounds posted here, it does not feel real any more.
Furthermore:
I think I know where this is coming from. Someone could leak a shady forum deal to someone (by forwarding a message to some other party).
However, you are protected by rule 1.3 from it in large parts. E.g. Hessians would hardly leak IMG shady deals to DHC.
Shadiness however needs to be only done with parties that you can somewhat rely on and that could not screw you over bc it would run against their ID (and against 1.3).
That's why Bounty Boards ask you to be red to your target and good to your employer, etc etc etc. So that doing messy stuff would mean breaking 1.3.
I do not see this "workaround" of yours working out.
I'll not respect your uni-lateral ruling, as the way you are justifying it irply is strikingly silly and seems to me more trolly than serious.
Kudos to Danny-boy for restoring my faith into the community, the issue has been discussed an resolved.
Everyone else that had to derail this feedback thread with pointless comments or pictures of old women taking pictures of nearly as old computers, be glad that the Mods did the cleaning before I could.
While it's in DHC HC opinion's weird the OP can't restrict viewing acces, and those rules could do with some changing, we adjusted our transmission rules, as promised. Thank you Danny-boy for bringing that specific issue up to our attention
Oh, I nearly forgot. I heard from some people who relied me logs there was some controversion in official leaders chat about DHC-Kruger cooperation. If you've got any feedback about that, questions, just ask
No worries, though the revised thread still seems a little like powergaming to me (Though I assume the admins have given it the all clear, so after this post I will drop the matter and let you guys decide what you want to do in peace). I'll briefly explain why I believe it is still powergaming as well as provide you with a possible alternative (that ofc if you don't like you can simply discard).
The reason I still believe it to be powergaming is the fact that after my character receives this message, it his in his/her possession therefore they should be able to do whatever they please with it, even prevent it from blowing up in their face (in whatever rp manor you can conceive, be it having a super computer to edit the file to not blow up or something else). After all, not allowing them to use this inrp item/code in their possession how they see fit would be controlling and interfering with that characters rp. This comes under the definition of powergaming that we use here on disco.
Now I understand you don't want tattle-tale Tim getting DHC in a pile of horse manure, so here is an alternative suggestion from myself that you can do whatever you please with. Instead of having this message so that something out of the recipients hands happens to their characters rp possessions once they open it, create a situation were it could never be linked back to DHC in the first place. So for example, use Ageria's super cool 'anonymizing proxy service' so that the message was never officially sent from DHC in the first place and anyone could have sent such a message.
This means that the recipient can do anything they want with the message once they have received it (even open it without it deleting itself), thus there is no powergaming. And DHC aren't implicated in anything illegal because they never sent any messages which they perhaps shouldn't be sending, according to the RFP.
Well I'll leave you with those ideas to do what you will, anyway best of luck to you and see you in space.
That "proxy" thing doesn't sound bad either, thanks for good idea Danny. There of course wouldn't be any "literal" "blowing up" messages, rather autodeleted ones, but your idea sounds good aswell. We'll think of it, thanks.
And of course, see you in space!
Important annoucement
To make forumlancing easier and faster, so I personally could spend more time in-game, please post links in this thread when you send transmission to DHC, or wait for our reply in a story topic. http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=130223
I think the idea is good and I heard Lyth already wants to steal it
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