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Temporary Suggestion: Make CDs disrupt JDs until the next patch

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Temporary Suggestion: Make CDs disrupt JDs until the next patch
Offline Kosa
05-18-2015, 10:43 PM,
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Jesus. I'm out of this conversation. Some people just can't take part in civilised discussions.

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Offline Goldanne
05-18-2015, 10:45 PM,
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(05-18-2015, 10:33 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: Id prefer if we just got rid of them, like really, they make capital combat stupid,

Take into the account chances of survival in a capital combat of lighter and heavier capitals. Where is that big slow battleship?

(05-18-2015, 10:33 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: and totally kill RP in omicrons when you see things like this.
One could fly there without a JD or cloaked. It's another thing. A stray ship escaping an out-of-ZOI fight isn't that much a problem.

(05-18-2015, 10:33 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: I dont know about you guys, but id hate to go up against fleets that JD back to their base for regens like 80 times because they get their hull scratched by 1 cerb shot.

The same as snub resupplying on the nearest base at longer than 10k range. Not against the rules, and not the best behavior.
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Offline Black Widow
05-18-2015, 10:46 PM,
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Lythrilux is just angry coz today he tried to impart a tax on me to which I declined he then opened fire but failed to get the blue msg....
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Offline t0l
05-18-2015, 10:49 PM,
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(05-18-2015, 10:46 PM)Black Widow Wrote: Lythrilux is just angry coz today he tried to impart a tax on me to which I declined he then opened fire but failed to get the blue msg....

You jumped out of a system you weren't even supposed to be in in the first place after refusing to deal with the consequences of your actions, and then mocked him in local while you jumped away.

I'd be pretty pissed too.

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Offline Lythrilux
05-18-2015, 10:49 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-18-2015, 10:50 PM by Lythrilux.)
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(05-18-2015, 10:43 PM)Kosa Wrote: Jesus. I'm out of this conversation. Some people just can't take part in civilised discussions.
Well you did walk into this thread essentially calling me an idiot. So goodbye.

(05-18-2015, 10:46 PM)Black Widow Wrote: Lythrilux is just angry coz today he tried to impart a tax on me to which I declined he then opened fire but failed to get the blue msg....
You always end up being the perfect example of bad gameplay BW. Thank you for contributing to balance discussions in that regard.

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Offline SnakeLancerHaven
05-18-2015, 10:51 PM,
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Jumpdrives existed back in Sol, so why shouldn't they exist in Sirius?

Just make EMP Cruise Disruptors, which would inRP literally shut down all Cloaking Power and Jumpdrive Powering up, in game it would just disrupt you from Jumping or Cloaking, but this would be an additional Cruise Disruptor. I'd say use the word "EMP" in here and put it inside the description of what it realy is meant for.

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Offline Wesker
05-18-2015, 10:54 PM,
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(05-18-2015, 10:45 PM)Goldanne Wrote:
(05-18-2015, 10:33 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: Id prefer if we just got rid of them, like really, they make capital combat stupid,

Take into the account chances of survival in a capital combat of lighter and heavier capitals. Where is that big slow battleship?

(05-18-2015, 10:33 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: and totally kill RP in omicrons when you see things like this.
One could fly there without a JD or cloaked. It's another thing. A stray ship escaping an out-of-ZOI fight isn't that much a problem.

(05-18-2015, 10:33 PM)Punisher5431 Wrote: I dont know about you guys, but id hate to go up against fleets that JD back to their base for regens like 80 times because they get their hull scratched by 1 cerb shot.

The same as snub resupplying on the nearest base at longer than 10k range. Not against the rules, and not the best behavior.
A. Get good in caps, there are way better ways to fight.

B.id understand a zoner, but not a KU bs

C. Running away from a fight and escaping is better than "well better use my JD."

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Offline Goldanne
05-18-2015, 10:55 PM,
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(05-18-2015, 10:39 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Battleship balance is another matter altogether and they seriously do need to be looked at. I don't think it's justifiable to say that JDs are a suitable way to save a dying class.

Yet those two things are connected. In serious combat, JDs is often the only way for a BS to survive, while smaller vessels have more chances, and often they don't deal less damage over their lifetime. I don't mind JD disruptors in a balanced and thought over way, and I would definitely welcome revision of BSs in general, but as it is now, and as it has been for years already, JD escape is a reasonable alternative to death. It doesn't mean that it should be used to constantly jump back into the fight, but frankly it's used so seldomly. But again, noone forbids constant resupplying of capitals and snubs, so it all about player behavior, not excessive nerfs or rules.
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Offline Wesker
05-18-2015, 10:55 PM,
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(05-18-2015, 10:51 PM)Snake Wrote: Jumpdrives existed back in Sol, so why shouldn't they exist in Sirius?

Just make EMP Cruise Disruptors, which would inRP literally shut down all Cloaking Power and Jumpdrive Powering up, in game it would just disrupt you from Jumping or Cloaking, but this would be an additional Cruise Disruptor. I'd say use the word "EMP" in here and put it inside the description of what it realy is meant for.

Or you can delete them and end toxic rp and gameplay altogether on that front.

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Offline Thyrzul
05-18-2015, 10:56 PM,
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(05-18-2015, 10:49 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: You always end up being the perfect example of bad gameplay BW. Thank you for contributing to balance discussions in that regard.

The sad part of the story is that he's even proud of being the bad example he is.

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