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Poll: The Anticheat

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I rather have better obfuscation, even if it means potential false positive antivirus problems.
92.13%
82 92.13%
I rather have less obfuscation, even if it means more cheaters ingame.
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Poll: The Anticheat
Offline Alley
05-21-2015, 01:33 PM,
#1
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We recently toughened up the obfuscation on several discovery DLLs and it caused quite a lot of false positive problems with antiviruses.

This is the results with the megaobfuscated dll: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/942e4.../analysis/
with the basic obfuscation: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/eabfc...431776474/

We're soon going to release a new C++11 based DSAce.dll so this is a chance to get input on what you as a community member is willing to endure whenever we need to update DSAce.

What prompted us to use tougher obfuscation compared to earlier is because we've seen a surge of people attempting to modify their DSAce.dll in an attempt to fool the anticheat, which didn't work in almost all cases. There was also a case of a community member paying with real dosh a third-party programmer to bypass the anticheat.

This begs the question as unfortunately the toughter obfuscation caused more problems than anything: Are you willing to deal with antivirus false positives or deal with a potential surge of cheaters ingame?

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Offline Vulkhard Muller
05-21-2015, 01:37 PM,
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Cheaters ruin the Game any means necessary use them end their miserable cheating existences. I can deal with the occasional false positives. However cheaters just ruin everything.
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Offline jammi
05-21-2015, 01:38 PM,
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(05-21-2015, 01:37 PM)Vulkhard Muller Wrote: Cheaters ruin the Game any means necessary use them end their miserable cheating existences. I can deal with the occasional false positives. However cheaters just ruin everything.

Pretty much. False positives can be sorted out with 10 minutes of work. Cheaters usually can't.
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Offline Wesker
05-21-2015, 01:39 PM,
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Cheaters never win and winners never cheat. I support option 1.

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Offline Connor
05-21-2015, 01:39 PM,
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(05-21-2015, 01:37 PM)Vulkhard Muller Wrote: Cheaters ruin the Game any means necessary use them end their miserable cheating existences. I can deal with the occasional false positives. However cheaters just ruin everything.

That

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Offline Venkman
05-21-2015, 01:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-21-2015, 01:40 PM by Venkman.)
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Option 1 all the way.

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Offline Laura C.
05-21-2015, 01:44 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-21-2015, 01:49 PM by Laura C..)
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I had to deal with false positive only once on my antivirus. I just turned it off during download and installation of update, then everything was fine. So I guess I will rather do this from time to time than having to face cheaters ingame.

By the way...
(05-21-2015, 01:33 PM)Alley Wrote: What prompted us to use tougher obfuscation compared to earlier is because we've seen a surge of people attempting to modify their DSAce.dll in an attempt to fool the anticheat, which didn't work in almost all cases. There was also a case of a community member paying with real dosh a third-party programmer to bypass the anticheat.
Wow. Someone so desperately wanted to cheat to be able to "win" here that he spent money for it? Unbelievable.

On a ragebreak. Or ragequit. Time will tell.
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Offline Sabru
05-21-2015, 01:57 PM,
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(05-21-2015, 01:37 PM)Vulkhard Muller Wrote: Cheaters ruin the Game any means necessary use them end their miserable cheating existences. I can deal with the occasional false positives. However cheaters just ruin everything.

This. Also, my AV is listed as not having a problem with the mega-obfuscated dll, so i have no problem with it.

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Offline Smithy
05-21-2015, 01:57 PM,
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Any decent antivirus should have feature to add DSLauncher to a "safe/trusted" list. It's actually easy to do (linked 3 screenshots)

Just thought I'd post a little reminder since I'm trying to retrieve damaged files from a machine that got its Windows system files damaged and half the work documents are corrupted. The PC had Microsoft Security Essentials installed in case you're wondering.
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Offline nOmnomnOm
05-21-2015, 02:02 PM,
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I dont like computer errors >.<

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