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I rather have better obfuscation, even if it means potential false positive antivirus problems.
92.13%
82 92.13%
I rather have less obfuscation, even if it means more cheaters ingame.
7.87%
7 7.87%
Total 89 vote(s) 100%
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Poll: The Anticheat
Offline Quetz
05-21-2015, 11:54 PM,
#21
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There are some famous names on the option b voters, kehehehe..

Btw i prefer to see tech obfuscators than cheaters in disco.
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Offline Omi
05-21-2015, 11:57 PM,
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you can't fool me into downloading your viruses

lol

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Offline t0l
05-21-2015, 11:58 PM,
#23
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(05-21-2015, 11:57 PM)le toucan Wrote: you can't fool me into downloading your viruses

lol

wtf its not a virus!!!!

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Offline nOmnomnOm
05-22-2015, 12:25 AM,
#24
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(05-21-2015, 11:57 PM)le toucan Wrote: you can't fool me into downloading your viruses

lol

+1 Dev Conspiracy to spy on us.
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Offline Quetz
05-22-2015, 01:19 AM,
#25
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+2 If it really a keylogger costumed as sheep, hehe
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Offline Hannibal
05-22-2015, 09:03 AM,
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i don't have [A]ntivirus..so..go ahead.. Big Grin


People want to believe that God has a plan for them.
They don't wanna believe that anyone else does..
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Offline tothebonezone
05-22-2015, 10:40 AM,
#27
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Honestly, false positives come down to a case of poorly picked antivirus and user error.

Never compromise protection for convenience

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Offline Alley
05-22-2015, 10:53 AM,
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(05-22-2015, 10:40 AM)Saronsen Wrote: Honestly, false positives come down to a case of poorly picked antivirus and user error.

Never compromise protection for convenience

Nah not quite. Bitdefender is pretty good all around along with avast and co. It really boils down to the obfuscation we used. It could be solved vy signing the DLL but that's 180 € per year which is kind of out of the reach from a community like ours.

I'm still looking into ways to end the whole problem but time is the problem here.

Laz Wrote: Alley was right.
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Offline Fluffyball
05-22-2015, 11:21 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-22-2015, 11:46 AM by Fluffyball.)
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People will cheat no matter what. If anyone REALLY wants to cheat, he or she will find a way.

I think software compability and issues with such is the main reason why we shouldn't include more code than it is. Not that some people are kicked and even banned, because of the software failure, server bug or because of third-party software that might be seen by game as cheating one (might happen, sooner or later.)

On the other hand, a lot of paid AV software will always find false positives, what might be a problem for players who use them and they don't really want to turn off AV software just to play the game. As a sidenote, there's a decline in AV trend, as far as I've seen. Reasons? The CPU usage, RAM usage and stupidity of AV active defense and its check systems.

I've seen a lot of AV software that failed to comply with its role after three months, making PC very unstable and unable to play, work or even to watch YT.

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Offline Plan-B
05-22-2015, 12:07 PM,
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as programming sometimes - i know the Problems of false positive messages. The problem often is outdated sub DLL's or rather old programming stuff.

But an AV progamm is needed anyways. Well in my opinion the DLL has to be updated, cause trouble grows with each update.

Cheaters .... yes i think there are quiete a lot. But where to draw a line? I was accused (possible) cheating many times: switched too fast, broken DLL - when AV got mad etc. For example our small Groups uses *.reg files to change id. This works pretty fast and doesnt irritate the launcher. So we minimized the need of restarting the game.

But real cheaters have to be taken away from server. I remember the base bashers a year ago.
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