Hispania Faction Idea

[Huursa]

Omg... Dude I don't get it. On skype you discuss it different and here you say it different.

The idea was to make an Outcast group which wants to get rid of Cardamine by replacing it with Stabiline. This would mean actually get in bussines with Cryer Pharmaceuticals, as they produce those things. With this, they would actually contact the assistance of Sairs, thus they'd seperate from the OCs which use Cardamine. This would open new ways to RP an Outcast without beeing bound to Cardamine and especially, Nomads.

The long term goal of this is of course a unification and end result = The Hispania. But of course this can't be achieved probably, but is a long term RP which never ends, something that would keep the faction alive. But yea, I like the idea realy. About time to see a group of OCs / Sairs fight together instead of against each other who knows.

Also the idea wasn't "CORSAIR AFFILIATED PIRATES" damn it, you were supposed to be Outcasts not Corsairs. Also I proposed you, Pirate IDed Outcast IFF or just Pirate ID without an IFF? Well I'm not sure if same IFF can fight each other to be honest. All I know is that same ID can't fight each other but I think same IFF shouldn't be a problem?

Also a definite NO to Cardamine on Crete :| ffs we try to cure some Outcasts from Cardamine, not making another Mini House a Cardi-Addict, would be stupid.

Indeed the long term goal is The Hispania but i wrote one of the all ways to achieve that.

[Quetz]

http://discoverygc.com/wiki/Cardamine_Or...nd_Effects
That link might be useful for you.

If you want to create a faction based of OC and Sairs without the addiction of cardamine, the OC originated members have to be crazy/damaged mentally(due to the DNA reparations).
And the Sairs originated members have to get good first in order to be responsible of their insane partners.

[Antagonist]

Effectively to create an outcast faction that tries to get rid of cardamine is difficult and nearly impossible.
As I know there are are just a handful of people such as Lee del Sol Verde, who have managed to clean theirs organism from cardamine. He even got help of Cryer for this prodecure, but the result has marked him, has nearly killed and has made him completely mental-ill.
Creating a group, with taking this as a reference, is in my opinion unrealistic, because to much people will simply die to the procedure or will be to much mentally destabilized to form actively a group of influence in a later state.

[jammi]

So far as I know there is no actual lore friendly way to cure cardamine addiction. Stabiline seems to be a treatment for withdrawals but not the addiction itself - there'd still be irreparable genetic alterations. Not to mention Stabiline allegedly has a whole litany of horrific side effects that can be caused. Stabiline has the potential to be every Big Pharma conspiracy theory rolled into one easily marketed product.

Also, consider this: cardamine gives the Outcasts the edge in combat. It permeates everything on Malta down to the molecular level. Dealing in it has made them fantastically wealthy and powerful in comparison to their early years on the planet. I'd they were to try and remove cardamine from the population group they would effectively have to leave Malta and back to being a nomadic group of impoverished and average pirates.

There's no way to remove cardamine without completely destroying the Outcasts as a society.

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[Pepe]

I can't say if your idea is good or bad. I just say we might need simple Disco, fair one, friendly to new players and easy to understand. All those walls of text, like rules, factions lore, local laws, diplomacy, comms... And we still log mostly to kick someone's ass. Vanila bestest flavor, ffs.

Nice new people will keep leaving if we stay complicated and only us jerks will stay to do our jerky things to each other.

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[SnakeLancerHaven]

Would be nice to have a Nomadic Outcast Group that actually try to cure themselfs. We ain't speaking about the WHOLE OC as in a bunch. A mix of Kusari Exile and Phoenix probably <- Maybe a bad example but as close as we can get to explain.

But all in all. Why not? Why wouldn't some of them risk that and live Nomadic, while Corsairs would lend them Hospitality and respect their Honor in risking this just for the Cure.

Hell I would even think that Sairs would Honor such ally, which almost risks so many things just for that.

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[Huursa]

Would be nice to have a Nomadic Outcast Group that actually try to cure themselfs. We ain't speaking about the WHOLE OC as in a bunch. A mix of Kusari Exile and Phoenix probably <- Maybe a bad example but as close as we can get to explain.

But all in all. Why not? Why wouldn't some of them risk that and live Nomadic, while Corsairs would lend them Hospitality and respect their Honor in risking this just for the Cure.

Hell I would even think that Sairs would Honor such ally, which almost risks so many things just for that.

Well the idea is to cure exOC and ally with them to create new house Hispania .

[Connor]

Lets get something straight first. You are going to listen to feedback, instead of blowing it of thinking you're 100% right, and not abuse my Angels when you ask them a question in the future? Right?

If so, then good.

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[Huursa]

Lets get something straight first. You are going to listen to feedback, instead of blowing it of thinking you're 100% right, and not abuse my Angels when you ask them a question in the future? Right?

If so, then good.

Lol no offense but im not saying that im 100% .right .

[Connor]

"lol no offense" but answer my question please.

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