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SnakeLancerHaven · (This post was last modified: 06-25-2015, 01:50 PM by SnakeLancerHaven.)

@Wulverine I'm sorry, what? You call it "troublesome" members? I dearly hope you aren't talking about Aphil, Lanakov, Flash, Krallerich, Dirmaster, Pammy and those which left SCRA exactly because of it's current state?

Other than that, your statements are rather very poor than constructive. You may not know what JayDee was stating, it's not "SCRA JayDee knew and loved", it's the SCRA so many previous active members aswell as vets (Aphil, Lanakov, Shagohad, even Alvin Katz) loved, aswell as others like me. It's not "just JayDee".
Keep this inside your mind, deeply before you judge any of our statements as "selfish". It's the SCRA that everyone used to love because of it's high quality inRP and Recruitment process aswell as activity and clearly protecting the Firewall against Lolwuts. Which the current system appearantly can't handle. "Trust me we already know", if you already know then why the hell did you recruit them in the first place? Those are just excuses in order to bring in members so that you guys wont drop from activity, as Tabris tried to hold it up with HC members afking in space.

Appereantly afking in space wasn't enough, so you need people which just pew pews in order to keep activity.

At JayDees statement about patrol in omegas was because of this, the SCRA member noticed us seeing him afking, so he went around to look like as if he was just about to leave for patrol, but in fact was AFK.

I myself did follow the Lithuana as it wasn't replying to me, after he saw me, like 10 mins after I approached, he did exactly this: Went to omega-5 and docked on Hessian Base. Trying to shake me off so he can continue AFKing in space.

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Mímir · (This post was last modified: 06-25-2015, 01:57 PM by Mímir.)

(06-25-2015, 01:07 PM)Wulverine Wrote: Peculiar choice of words here. The SCRA "we all know and love"may just be the "SCRA JayDee knew and loved".

Well I can second him, SCRA was far better back in the day when they were more of a carbon copy of Starlancer Coalition, rather than this new trading faction that passes out hugs left and right, dreaming of carriers and other cap trash while having a backstory that totally hinges on a variation of a social model that no one in current SCRA seem to have the faintest understanding of.

Current day SCRA is just a random faction like any other, perhaps even more poorly explained (it's always difficult to make Mary Sue somewhat realistic) just with black ships, Soviet symbology, and random "da's", "niet's" and "privyet's", nothing more. And that's really a shame when you consider what the faction could be, with a starting point so radically different to all other factions in the game.

Now if only there was a proper indie ID...

EDIT: Smile

Oldum · 06-25-2015, 02:03 PM,

To be honest, I used to have the most anoying and the most exciting encounters with the old SCRA ( back when Alvin was boss ) in Rheinland and O-7/O-11 ... and I don't remember a single occasion where they did anything that was even slightly related to ooRP stuff. Lately, I1ve met SCRA ships, they were like freelancers on the trade lane, I almost didn't notice them at all... I did skip a year in happenings, but I do wonder why the faction got so .. soft ...

Also, quite honestly, the Coalition shipline isn't really Coalition at all .. okay, the snubs aren't , the caps are fine. ( I miss the old monsters :/ )

Anyways, I wanted to join SCRA back then, but I felt like I wasn't at their level in RPing , but now, it's not the same thing I used to like. I'd love to fly as an indie , but as Mímir said , the Coalition ID just lets you fly around and .. that's all .

So it's sad :/

Euca · 06-25-2015, 02:12 PM,

(06-25-2015, 01:47 PM)Snake Wrote: @Wulverine I'm sorry, what? You call it "troublesome" members? I dearly hope you aren't talking about Aphil, Lanakov, Flash, Krallerich, Dirmaster, Pammy and those which left SCRA exactly because of it's current state?

I was referring to the removal of the typical "russ))" players that assimilated their way into the faction under poor recruitment officers, but I guess I dunno nothin' about the Coalition lol!!!!

Quote:Other than that, your statements are rather very poor than constructive.

It really feels like "constructive statements" need to support your argument in order to be considered "constructive". Just sayin'.

Quote:You may not know what JayDee was stating, it's not "SCRA JayDee knew and loved", it's the SCRA so many previous active members aswell as vets (Aphil, Lanakov, Shagohad, even Alvin Katz) loved, aswell as others like me. It's not "just JayDee".

And I love that none of them had the courage to stay behind and fix it. It really puts their legitimacy as Coalition players into question. Thanks for pointing that one out.

Quote:Keep this inside your mind, deeply before you judge any of our statements as "selfish". It's the SCRA that everyone used to love because of it's high quality inRP and Recruitment process aswell as activity and clearly protecting the Firewall against Lolwuts.

So that's why there was a spontaneous intake of the typically lulwatty recruits when JayDee was positioned on recruitment? I mean, I don't mean to attack JayDee's credibility, but it seems ineffective to compare a system based on an officers personal opinion of an individual to a stereotypically impenetrable firewall, especially since opinion sways and changes like a tide.

Quote:At JayDees statement about patrol in omegas was because of this, the SCRA member noticed us seeing him afking, so he went around to look like as if he was just about to leave for patrol, but in fact was AFK.

I myself did follow the Lithuana as it wasn't replying to me, after he saw me, like 10 mins after I approached, he did exactly this: Went to omega-5 and docked on Hessian Base. Trying to shake me off so he can continue AFKing in space.

Are you being paranoid? Because it smells like paranoia in here. Sure, occasional AFK mishaps happen, but concluding that "all HC members do it" on two separate occasions seems somewhat accusing and even paranoid.

Honestly? I'd just get over it. If you're upset about lulwat members, let the SCRA deal with it, as they will be doing. Chill. Have a sandwich break.

Tabris · 06-25-2015, 03:00 PM,

(06-25-2015, 11:43 AM)sindroms Wrote: http://i.imgur.com/CL4PFVe.png

No, if I kill them that does not allow them to come back. Tell them that. And if they die it means THEY cannot engage the other party, not the other way around, Jesus H Chryst.

The two offenders have been taken care of via removal from our faction. Their actions shame both me and the S.C.R.A. faction.

SnakeLancerHaven · (This post was last modified: 06-25-2015, 03:35 PM by SnakeLancerHaven.)

@Wulverine are you realy that stupid? No sorry but talking without knowing things is realy annoying.

The reason so many vets left was because of the coup from Tabris which lead to many mistrust. His "ignore/block" everyone that had ties to the old SCRA also led many to give up, well beside me and JayDee of course.

Do you realy want me to bring this back up again? Realy Wulv? You're just being stubborn, how about you calm your SCRA Boner a bit and then talk.

The mistrust also resulted in Tabris never listening to any of us suddenly calling us all Traitors for following JayDee. Appearantly, he had an ooRP grudge since years against JayDee. Sadly, we noticed it too late and felt it the hard way.

The SCRA vets did EVERYTHING to bring this faction into a perfect and awesome position to RP with and it had all the previous SCRA members effort and time everyone wasted into this faction. We were like a family, helping each other out for this faction and showing quality. But appearantly, there were some ungrateful people among us that just ice coldly was ok with getting everyone out of SCRA just so he can do whatever he pleases right now. As you can see, we're not the only one that did like the old SCRA.

There wasn't such a thing as "fix it" "courage to stay behind and fix it", because the Head was corrupt since beginning planning to remove them one by one, because he knew, if he'd kick out JayDee all vets and others would follow him. Because compared to Tabris, we all were like a Family which he never felt and ignored until the final day. He basicly stole SCRA from it's actual owners and the people which put so much time and effort into this faction over years, for his own benefit and tricked everyone of us. If you wanna hear more, get to PM, don't need to talk any further about it in the feedback thread.

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Jayce · 06-25-2015, 03:43 PM,

But if he ignores/blocks everyone from the old SCRA, why am I still in the faction?

SnakeLancerHaven · (This post was last modified: 06-25-2015, 03:47 PM by SnakeLancerHaven.)

(06-25-2015, 03:43 PM)Jayce Wrote: But if he ignores/blocks everyone from the old SCRA, why am I still in the faction?

Shsht you weren't there when the coup happened. Especially you were inactive as hell. Go ask Aphil, Lanakov and those about what happened, I'm sure they'll fill you in.

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Jayce · (This post was last modified: 06-25-2015, 04:12 PM by Jayce.)

Frankly, I prefer Tabris to Aphil.

SnakeLancerHaven · 06-25-2015, 05:05 PM,

(06-25-2015, 04:12 PM)Jayce Wrote: Frankly, I prefer Tabris to Aphil.

Did I just mention Aphil? No. Besides JayDee was leader back then, not Aphil. What about Lanakov, Alvin and all the others? Have you never cared about them to consider their opinion as trash?

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