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Offline Sylvie557
01-15-2016, 04:35 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-15-2016, 04:37 AM by Sylvie557.)
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(01-15-2016, 04:28 AM)Garrett Jax Wrote: Read the post again, more carefully this time. You are correct. I did misunderstand it. Sorry bud.

I suppose Liberty could request Junkers to FR5 a ship, but I don't see how they could force them to. They might place pressure on Junkers, however there should always be pressure on Junkers from Liberty Lawfuls. You guys have totally opposite goals. Even if Junkers were inclined to FR5 a ship, what Junker law did the guy break? The matter appears to be between Lib Lawfuls and the ship violating Liberty laws, not Junkers. If Liberty Lawfuls want to pursue an FR5, then let them.

I believe Junkers actually have a rule against unlawfuls using their stations while lawfuls are nearby. So honestly Junkers should be a bit annoyed inRP at the ship doing so. Also as John has mentioned ooRP they don't expect Junkers to FR5 first time offenders but the Junkers should contact the offender and give them a slap on the wrist(ex fine) and if they continue to do so they you can think about FR5ing the ship/faction, not because Lawfuls are making you but because the group or ship in question is endangering the Junkers.

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Offline nOmnomnOm
01-15-2016, 04:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-15-2016, 05:01 AM by nOmnomnOm.)
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(01-15-2016, 04:43 AM)VaaMerc Wrote: However you are addressing the wrong group of people. The common Junker is only a civilian with no actual pull in the greater Junker community. The Congressmen are the only group who actually control docking rights and administration of Junker installations. Unfortunately their continued policy of deception and manipulating both Lawful and Unlawful factions has led to this situation.

worst RP i have seen so far
junkers blaming other junkers? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Not even going to be nice anymore. this just got more retarded.
honestly i dont care who you are or how new/old you are. If you are going to contribute then DONT attempt to screw over the faction you are representing with your post.

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Offline RicoValesquez
01-15-2016, 05:22 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-15-2016, 05:26 AM by RicoValesquez.)
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(01-15-2016, 04:43 AM)VaaMerc Wrote:
----------Incoming Transmission----------


Sender: Matthew Decker
Location: Rochester Station
Subject: Criminals Docking on Rochester

Hello Captain Knight,

It is unfortunate that once again Liberty forces were unsuccessful in the apprehension of criminal elements due to their ability to seek shelter on one of our installations. Many of us understand and support Liberty's efforts to maintain a criminal free zone within Liberty space. I was an Officer in the Navy myself and I admire your continued dedication to pursuing this matter.

However you are addressing the wrong group of people. The common Junker is only a civilian with no actual pull in the greater Junker community. The Congressmen are the only group who actually control docking rights and administration of Junker installations. Unfortunately their continued policy of deception and manipulating both Lawful and Unlawful factions has led to this situation.

I ask that you please refrain from persecuting those Junkers who have not actually done anything wrong. Rochester for the most part is station full of honest hard working men and women who don't deserve to be targeted due to Congress operations. My associates and I will continue to voice our opinion within the Junker community, but I doubt any change will occur unless the Congressmen are being forced.

I'm sorry that it has come to this. Hopefully things change for the better.

Decker out.

----------Transmission Ended----------

He wasn't even a Junker... just some random guy who was responding to the post from BMF character apparently...

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Offline RicoValesquez
01-15-2016, 05:27 AM,
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This is getting out of hand there needs to be some kind of Admin intervention

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Offline VaaMerc
01-15-2016, 05:43 AM,
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(01-15-2016, 05:22 AM)RicoValesquez Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 04:43 AM)VaaMerc Wrote:
----------Incoming Transmission----------


Sender: Matthew Decker
Location: Rochester Station
Subject: Criminals Docking on Rochester

Hello Captain Knight,

It is unfortunate that once again Liberty forces were unsuccessful in the apprehension of criminal elements due to their ability to seek shelter on one of our installations. Many of us understand and support Liberty's efforts to maintain a criminal free zone within Liberty space. I was an Officer in the Navy myself and I admire your continued dedication to pursuing this matter.

However you are addressing the wrong group of people. The common Junker is only a civilian with no actual pull in the greater Junker community. The Congressmen are the only group who actually control docking rights and administration of Junker installations. Unfortunately their continued policy of deception and manipulating both Lawful and Unlawful factions has led to this situation.

I ask that you please refrain from persecuting those Junkers who have not actually done anything wrong. Rochester for the most part is station full of honest hard working men and women who don't deserve to be targeted due to Congress operations. My associates and I will continue to voice our opinion within the Junker community, but I doubt any change will occur unless the Congressmen are being forced.

I'm sorry that it has come to this. Hopefully things change for the better.

Decker out.

----------Transmission Ended----------

He wasn't even a Junker... just some random guy who was responding to the post from BMF character apparently...

I think you misunderstand. I'm not rping a BMF character
Offline RicoValesquez
01-15-2016, 05:50 AM,
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You didn't specify other than the fact that it said you are BMF at the bottom. Regardless you are slandering Congress which is a conversation for elsewhere.

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Offline VaaMerc
01-15-2016, 05:51 AM,
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(01-15-2016, 05:50 AM)RicoValesquez Wrote: You didn't specify other than the fact that it said you are BMF at the bottom. Regardless you are slandering Congress which is a conversation for elsewhere.

That was my signature. I'm not slandering anyone. You need to chill out and not be so defensive over something you obviously misundertoond
Offline nOmnomnOm
01-15-2016, 05:59 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-15-2016, 06:00 AM by nOmnomnOm.)
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(01-15-2016, 04:56 AM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 04:43 AM)VaaMerc Wrote: However you are addressing the wrong group of people. The common Junker is only a civilian with no actual pull in the greater Junker community. The Congressmen are the only group who actually control docking rights and administration of Junker installations. Unfortunately their continued policy of deception and manipulating both Lawful and Unlawful factions has led to this situation.

worst RP i have seen so far
junkers blaming other junkers? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Not even going to be nice anymore. this just got more retarded.
honestly i dont care who you are or how new/old you are. If you are going to contribute then DONT attempt to screw over the faction you are representing with your post.

going to clarify.

"worst Rp i have seen so far"
meaning that from the posts so far of the whole topic, this strikes me the most. though i do not aim to harm anyone's feelings by it but common... Junkers blaming Junkers... it had to be pointed out.

"this just got more retarded."
meaning the situation. not the player.

the rest is pretty much self explanatory. someone's gotta put their foot down at some point or it will get out of control fast as i have seen it be done before by the lawful factions when they get needed 'dirt'

though yeah, i was a bit too harsh on him. For that i apologies.
Offline Stoner_Steve
01-15-2016, 06:00 AM,
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I think we are looking at this the wrong way

why are Official Factions sending comms over 'nameless' indy ships, which the vast majority of the community agrees aren't worth the time to do an FR5 on. Due to the nature of how easy it is to remake ships.
Offline VaaMerc
01-15-2016, 06:03 AM,
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(01-15-2016, 05:59 AM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 04:56 AM)nOmnomnOm Wrote:
(01-15-2016, 04:43 AM)VaaMerc Wrote: However you are addressing the wrong group of people. The common Junker is only a civilian with no actual pull in the greater Junker community. The Congressmen are the only group who actually control docking rights and administration of Junker installations. Unfortunately their continued policy of deception and manipulating both Lawful and Unlawful factions has led to this situation.

worst RP i have seen so far
junkers blaming other junkers? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Not even going to be nice anymore. this just got more retarded.
honestly i dont care who you are or how new/old you are. If you are going to contribute then DONT attempt to screw over the faction you are representing with your post.

going to clarify.

"worst Rp i have seen so far"
meaning that from the posts so far of the whole topic, this strikes me the most. though i do not aim to harm anyone's feelings by it but common... Junkers blaming Junkers... it had to be pointed out.

"this just got more retarded."
meaning the situation. not the player.

the rest is pretty much self explanatory. someone's gotta put their foot down at some point or it will get out of control fast as i have seen it be done before by the lawful factions when they get needed 'dirt'

though yeah, i was a bit too harsh on him. For that i apologies.

No Problem. Misunderstandings were had. Posts have been adjusted accordingly and I agree, the Anti Junker hate fueled by members of lawful factions is kinda getting out of hand. The Congress cant control game mechanics, and If they were to make special requests to limit docking rights then half the server would be banned from junker bases.
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