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Offline Findarato Veneanar
01-23-2016, 01:02 PM,
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A feedback thread has already been created, please stop posting hate in a thread meant for recruitment.

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Offline Sigma Wing
01-23-2016, 01:07 PM,
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(01-23-2016, 12:43 PM)WPeregrine Wrote:
(01-23-2016, 09:18 AM)Sigma Wing Wrote: (// Allow me to address some concerns about the "anti-JM" thing. This is a Hogosha counterpart to the JM|, and part of JM|'s core tenets is hunting Hogosha. Also, we get to pirate in Lolberty. JM can't.)

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[Image: c21.jpg]
Actually no, you have no zoi in Liberty with Hogosha, nor have you any zoi in a house space system that is not Kusari (except maybe Lyonnais). You may pirate freely in the Sigmas and Taus, Kepler and Galileo, and Rishiri (also Taus) and Lyonnais.

Check your privilege.

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On the other hand, if you are specifically targeting Junkers, you can attack them all everywhere, true. Expect a few fines from the police before they apply a legal ban from the area though.

Let's read: The Hogosha ID

I think the second line is very scintillating. For your edification...

Can demand cargo and credits from ships outside of Kusari house space, and attack them if they do not comply. Ships belonging to Samura are exempted from this.

So in other words, WPeregrine,

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Offline Euca
01-23-2016, 01:11 PM,
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I think you'll find that line implies that they can only pirate outside of the Kusari House Space and within their ZoI. That doesn't imply you can pirate where ever you please.

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Offline Sigma Wing
01-23-2016, 01:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-23-2016, 01:15 PM by Sigma Wing.)
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(01-23-2016, 01:11 PM)Wulverine Wrote: I think you'll find that line implies that they can only pirate outside of the Kusari House Space and within their ZoI. That doesn't imply you can pirate where ever you please.

Until such a time as it explies, it will be interpreted in true MinMax form.
And true MinMax form says that I can pirate your lolcap.
This really happened.

Now please take this conversation to the feedback thread I have made.

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Offline WesternPeregrine
01-23-2016, 01:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-23-2016, 01:31 PM by WesternPeregrine.)
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(01-23-2016, 01:07 PM)Sigma Wing Wrote:
(01-23-2016, 12:43 PM)WPeregrine Wrote:
(01-23-2016, 09:18 AM)Sigma Wing Wrote: (// Allow me to address some concerns about the "anti-JM" thing. This is a Hogosha counterpart to the JM|, and part of JM|'s core tenets is hunting Hogosha. Also, we get to pirate in Lolberty. JM can't.)

[+]Spoiler
[Image: c21.jpg]
Actually no, you have no zoi in Liberty with Hogosha, nor have you any zoi in a house space system that is not Kusari (except maybe Lyonnais). You may pirate freely in the Sigmas and Taus, Kepler and Galileo, and Rishiri (also Taus) and Lyonnais.

Check your privilege.

--------------

On the other hand, if you are specifically targeting Junkers, you can attack them all everywhere, true. Expect a few fines from the police before they apply a legal ban from the area though.

Let's read: The Hogosha ID

I think the second line is very scintillating. For your edification...

Can demand cargo and credits from ships outside of Kusari house space, and attack them if they do not comply. Ships belonging to Samura are exempted from this.

So in other words, WPeregrine,

I see you got the reference, very good.

However, history tell us that the Hogosha piracy lines are still confined with the written ZOI of the ID.

Very specific precedent.

Check. Your turn.

BONUS: Current regular Hogosha ID pictures (relevant lines for the discussion): 1 2

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Offline Zayne Carrick
01-23-2016, 01:21 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-23-2016, 01:21 PM by Zayne Carrick. Edit Reason: ohwell, I was ninjaed )
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(01-23-2016, 01:11 PM)Wulverine Wrote: I think you'll find that line implies that they can only pirate outside of the Kusari House Space and within their ZoI. That doesn't imply you can pirate where ever you please.
Actually, this.
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Offline Ryummel
01-23-2016, 01:24 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-23-2016, 01:28 PM by Ryummel.)
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Quote:Can demand cargo and credits from ships outside of Kusari house space, and attack them if they do not comply. Ships belonging to Samura are exempted from this.
...
Zone of Influence: Kusari, systems directly bordering Kusari, Lyonnais

Looks pretty obvious to me that Hogosha may only pirate within systems directly bordering Kusari and Lyonnais


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Sigma Wing Wrote:Until such a time as it explies, it will be interpreted in true MinMax form.

Best way to succeed in life, indeed.
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Offline Shiki
01-23-2016, 01:29 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-23-2016, 01:29 PM by Shiki.)
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(01-23-2016, 01:07 PM)Sigma Wing Wrote:
(01-23-2016, 12:43 PM)WPeregrine Wrote:
(01-23-2016, 09:18 AM)Sigma Wing Wrote: (// Allow me to address some concerns about the "anti-JM" thing. This is a Hogosha counterpart to the JM|, and part of JM|'s core tenets is hunting Hogosha. Also, we get to pirate in Lolberty. JM can't.)

[+]Spoiler
[Image: c21.jpg]
Actually no, you have no zoi in Liberty with Hogosha, nor have you any zoi in a house space system that is not Kusari (except maybe Lyonnais). You may pirate freely in the Sigmas and Taus, Kepler and Galileo, and Rishiri (also Taus) and Lyonnais.

Check your privilege.

--------------

On the other hand, if you are specifically targeting Junkers, you can attack them all everywhere, true. Expect a few fines from the police before they apply a legal ban from the area though.


Let's read: The Hogosha ID

I think the second line is very scintillating. For your edification...

Can demand cargo and credits from ships outside of Kusari house space, and attack them if they do not comply. Ships belonging to Samura are exempted from this.

So in other words, WPeregrine,

Oh, something tellls me it will be the great faction.

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Offline Sylvie557
01-23-2016, 01:37 PM,
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As others have stated, unless an ID lines specifically states otherwise it only applies within in your ZOI, if you don't want to listen to everyone go ahead and see how it goes(spoilers: sanctions will happen) but this is how the rules work.

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Offline Sigma Wing
01-23-2016, 01:37 PM,
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(01-23-2016, 01:24 PM)Ryummel Wrote:
Quote:Can demand cargo and credits from ships outside of Kusari house space, and attack them if they do not comply. Ships belonging to Samura are exempted from this.
...
Zone of Influence: Kusari, systems directly bordering Kusari, Lyonnais

Looks pretty obvious to me that Hogosha may only pirate within systems directly bordering Kusari and Lyonnais


[Image: AintersectB.png]

>Hogosha "tax" people in Liberty.
>This is considered "against the lore" by some.
>Hilariously, this is a splinter group with territorial ambitions that is explicitly stated in its fluff to be "looking beyond Kusari borders" for its fortunes.
>Hell, it's led by a woman. These guys are unorthodox, to say the least.
>Compared to guys who were just grouped to pirate with no prior RP.

And can we PLEASE move this to the Feedback Thread?

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