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Offline Antonio
04-18-2016, 11:20 PM,
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A quick feedback on the New York fight that happened 15 minutes ago.

First, hiring a razor gunboat and bringing it into a fair snub fight is an awful move. I don't know if you realise, but the bomber we had on our side was using a ship with 75% core and had a minimal impact on the fight. Not just because the bombers are horrible at 75% core, but also because the person flying it is rusty as hell and couldn't even hit a Montante reliably, which proves that point even more. There was absolutely no justification to ruin a snub fight like that.

Second - once we switched to the gunboat because we had no other way of winning the fight, you cruise away, restock and come back to shoot us again. And if that wasn't enough, one of your ships that came back had uncapped fps and started jittering all over the place, which I'm 100% sure he wasn't before the restock. I wish I recorded this actually, but my recording program was turned off. If the uncapping was done on purpose, which seems very likely due to the fact that it wasn't present before the fight, I'm really surprised you'd go that far to break one of the most harsh rules just to win a pvp you already had advantage in.

Horrible actions from an official faciton, step up your game.

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Offline Caelumaresh
04-18-2016, 11:39 PM,
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(04-18-2016, 11:20 PM)Antonio Wrote: A quick feedback on the New York fight that happened 15 minutes ago.

First, hiring a razor gunboat and bringing it into a fair snub fight is an awful move. I don't know if you realise, but the bomber we had on our side was using a ship with 75% core and had a minimal impact on the fight. Not just because the bombers are horrible at 75% core, but also because the person flying it is rusty as hell and couldn't even hit a Montante reliably, which proves that point even more. There was absolutely no justification to ruin a snub fight like that.

Second - once we switched to the gunboat because we had no other way of winning the fight, you cruise away, restock and come back to shoot us again. And if that wasn't enough, one of your ships that came back had uncapped fps and started jittering all over the place, which I'm 100% sure he wasn't before the restock. I wish I recorded this actually, but my recording program was turned off. If the uncapping was done on purpose, which seems very likely due to the fact that it wasn't present before the fight, I'm really surprised you'd go that far to break one of the most harsh rules just to win a pvp you already had advantage in.

Horrible actions from an official faciton, step up your game.

~A Switchblade

I was present in that fight on the Reavers' and this guy's side.
I sadly have to agree with Antonio here.

This Galaxy is vast; its wonders and beauty are almost unfathomable. But the galaxy also hides dark secrets, some of which have lain dormant since the beginning of time itself. There is a danger in secrets, both in seeking and in knowing. Some things are meant to be hidden from view. Some mysteries defy understanding, and sometimes even the things we think we know are untrue. Some secrets should remain untouched.


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Offline Silver
04-18-2016, 11:52 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-18-2016, 11:54 PM by Silver.)
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I am the rusty mofo, with the 75% Mamo. When i saw that razor gunbot coming on to the fight, i laughed. When i saw the jittery Jimbo, i laughed some more.
All this from officialdom? Epic stuff really. It almost seems the 5th didn't even moved in terms of actions ever since i left, when you weren't official.

Have fun. And ye. Signed with Antonio and Cael.

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Offline 5th Fleet
04-19-2016, 12:29 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-19-2016, 12:30 AM by 5th Fleet.)
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Quote: I don't know if you realise, but the bomber we had on our side was using a ship with 75% core and had a minimal impact on the fight
Obvious question...was it really needed to even get the bomber into the fight in question? I mean ok why not but....still if it was a 2v2 at first..

Quote:First, hiring a razor gunboat and bringing it into a fair snub fight is an awful move.
I have to agree on that one. Sorry 'bout that.

Quote:And if that wasn't enough, one of your ships that came back had uncapped fps and started jittering all over the place
Excuse me? Could you throw a PM 'bout that?

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Offline Antonio
04-19-2016, 01:36 AM,
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(04-19-2016, 12:29 AM)5th Fleet Wrote:
Quote: I don't know if you realise, but the bomber we had on our side was using a ship with 75% core and had a minimal impact on the fight
Obvious question...was it really needed to even get the bomber into the fight in question? I mean ok why not but....still if it was a 2v2 at first..

Not really, but he was eager to shoot and as I've said it's not like it had any impact on the fight anyways.

(04-19-2016, 12:29 AM)5th Fleet Wrote:
Quote:First, hiring a razor gunboat and bringing it into a fair snub fight is an awful move.
I have to agree on that one. Sorry 'bout that.

Fair enough. You still bypassed the other part of the thread though, especially the one with restocking.

(04-19-2016, 12:29 AM)5th Fleet Wrote:
Quote:And if that wasn't enough, one of your ships that came back had uncapped fps and started jittering all over the place
Excuse me? Could you throw a PM 'bout that?

Nothing to PM really. As the two people above that were also present in the fight confirmed - one of your guys was jittering. To avoid any trial by forum, it was the one without the sidewinder missile. I would like to know from him, honestly, if he did it on purpose or not, because he wasn't jittering before the restock.
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Offline GuapMan
04-22-2016, 02:19 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-22-2016, 02:20 PM by GuapMan.)
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I wanted to post here just wondering,

How come you guys seem to not go with unfair fights? Like there could be 1 fighter or whatever, and you'll chuck like 4 guys onto him? LIke i was wondering.. How is that fun to you guys? You can't use the excuse that ''It's Liberty'' or whatever, Like honestly if you guys didn't gank as much as you do you's would be very much liked, I would honestly love to have a fair fight with you guys for once.
Would be great
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Offline Shaggy
06-15-2016, 11:49 PM,
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So this really needs to be said. This is not a QQ or a rage thread. This is me speaking the honest truth.

Jack and other members of 5th are flying around Liberty thinking they own the place right. They fly with indies so fair enough, I like that, they roleplay with indies. But everyone who ignores there demands like stopping for a cargo scan, drop that cargo, or something like that is AUTOMATICALLY KoS or Kill On Sight.

Surely inrp it would lead to something like a fine way before KoS is ordered and if it is a KoS it needs to have a serious meaning behind it. Like a serious law which is broken, or several laws which are broken.

I just do not understand how 1 thing can lead to KoS. It has happened to me most recently with Lauren Shaw.

But I have seen it several times over the last few days from many 5th ships just screaming over system or local. "You are Kill On Sight by ALL navy ships now"

I would just like an explaining on this please.

Shaggy

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Offline Major.
06-15-2016, 11:50 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-15-2016, 11:51 PM by Major..)
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(06-15-2016, 11:49 PM)Shaggy Wrote: Jack and other members of 5th are flying around Liberty thinking they own the place right. They fly with indies so fair enough, I like that, they roleplay with indies. But everyone who ignores there demands like stopping for a cargo scan, drop that cargo, or something like that is AUTOMATICALLY KoS or Kill On Sight.
But I have seen it several times over the last few days from many 5th ships just screaming over system or local. "You are Kill On Sight by ALL navy ships now"

Any proofs Swagger?

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Offline Shaggy
06-15-2016, 11:51 PM,
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No I don't have proof because I don't save player chat unless it is 100% needed. I am just curious as to why.

1 or 2 Liberty Laws can be broken by any player and it will lead to automatic KoS. I just find this hard to believe. Surely it is a overall vote or some forum roleplay atleast?

Im just curious

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Offline Major.
06-15-2016, 11:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-15-2016, 11:55 PM by Major..)
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(06-15-2016, 11:51 PM)Shaggy Wrote: No I don't have proof because I don't save player chat unless it is 100% needed. I am just curious as to why.

1 or 2 Liberty Laws can be broken by any player and it will lead to automatic KoS. I just find this hard to believe. Surely it is a overall vote or some forum roleplay atleast?

Im just curious

Well... to be honest, I never saw Jack, Wasser or me flying around and shouting this, so since you don't have any proof I take this as another lie and flame against this faction.

Sorry Shaggy, but we know that you don't like us, and you never say the truth and invent stuff that never happened.

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