Freeport 11 - DROP from Gran Canaria

[The Core]

Hold up... you complain about the consequences of your actions the first time... and then you do it again?

Repeating myself once more. Your response is not an explanation of the above point which I wish to express an interest in hearing.

Reapting ourselves once more also, that is not what we're complaining about.

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[Jazzi]

Hold up... you complain about the consequences of your actions the first time... and then you do it again?

Repeating myself once more. Your response is not an explanation of the above point which I wish to express an interest in hearing.

Reapting ourselves once more also, that is not what we're complaining about.

It is what I am complaining about - and perhaps has implications on why people act as they do.

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[The Core]

So you're complaining about us complaining about something we're not actually complaining about?

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[Doria]

Hold up... you complain about the consequences of your actions the first time... and then you do it again?

Repeating myself once more, the problem is not with the RP itself. It's polluted with acidic ooRP background noise. The ooRP connotations are not making this roleplay enjoyable for people that want to grab a Core ID (and for some Zoner players too actually that we've talked to).

And where does attacking the Freeport itself and shouting "The Freeport shall fall!!", amongst other messages of the same type, enters on all of this? How that contributes for people that want to play Order or Zoner?

[The Core]

Well hostile RP is mutual. The Zoners are the one treating our vessels as hostile (i.e when they attacked our civilian transports) and Core shoots them back for that. Or when they shoot Core ships approaching the Freeport.

I mean honestly Doria, if the Zoners/Order aren't happy with this roleplay then speak up. Admist all the negative ooRP connotations, we can still try and work things out to ensure the outcome is fun for both sides. The best way to deal with things is to ensure there's talking going on from both sides (i.e when Core| actually planned to go hostile to Zoners themselves we were going to approach the Zoner official factions beforehand to ensure we could smooth everything out).

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[Jazzi]

Last time I checked, this thread was not a "Core - The complaination Album" Thread. It was an event thread hijacked to complain about the consequences of your actions which led up to the event.

This is an issue which could potentially be addressed: trying to control peoples conversation on a matter or trying to control peoples roleplay to benefit oneself or ones own group. Let people roleplay whatever they like, without ooRP BS (that frankly puts people off the mod entirely). Let people talk about whatever they like within server rules - whether that may be and how it affects you.

Last time Core or whatever faction decided to pwn on an indie, did he claim it to be a big oorp --- ? No, they didn't. Why is it different for Core? Why is different for factions? We all become attached to the roleplay we do, we all want it to succeed. Yet sometimes, that roleplay will run into an obstacle, a difficulty or flat out opposition. When faced with such a thing, what does a player do? In another game, one simply accepts the mechanics of the game and moves on... yet is that not what we do here? The forums, and the oorp communication, become one with the game mechanics in our minds - whether we choose to accept it or not. Yet, this is supposed to be non-kosher, right? How do we come to terms with it? By rationalising with ourselves that the community is out to get us - we ourselves know we do it, yet we excuse it as we need it to survive, right? Our ooRP becomes legitimised by the cruel world around us, and others ooRP becomes rulebreaker and victimisation.

As a community, we are in the pull of the vicious cycle of thinking. It effects how we play. It effects how we interact and think of each other. It leads to members of the community complaining about the very same point but arguing with pointed words whilst doing so. It leads to some players creating ooRP empires/networks and it leads to other leaving the community.

I urge us all to carefully consider how we engage with this mod to break out of this cycle - it brings us all at one point or another to the point of rage or misery, and that is a real shame. Or, perhaps... this post has "ooRP connotations."

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[Doria]

The Zoners are the one treating our vessels as hostile (i.e when they attacked our civilian transports) and Core shoots them back for that. Or when they shoot Core ships approaching the Freeport.

Really?? Where those any OFFICIAL Zoner ships, like OSI or TAZ? Or a CoF tagged vessel? Or was it some indie I don't know about and can't control?? It's like Kruger complaining about some noob using IMG id mining on their fields all over again... :/

[The Core]

The Zoners are the one treating our vessels as hostile (i.e when they attacked our civilian transports) and Core shoots them back for that. Or when they shoot Core ships approaching the Freeport.

Really?? Where those any OFFICIAL Zoner ships, like OSI or TAZ? Or a CoF tagged vessel? Or was it some indie I don't know about and can't control?? It's like Kruger complaining about some noob using IMG id mining on their fields all over again... :/

From the Zoner side of things, Zoner indies are what has started this.

If we want to deal with things via official factions, send us a comm.

But it really doesn't help that OSI/CoF ignore every piece of RP we ever send them.

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[Swallow]

After all the event is a win, so don't consider it a fail. And lets move further and RP further. Keep it iRP and let the events guide your story.

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[Doria]

So your response as officials were innadequate, by bombarding the freeport itself and shooting everyone around. Because of a couple indies.