Remove thrusters from 5kers?

[sasapinjic]

Armor limitation is one thing, thrusters making it easier to escape to closest dockable station is another.

Armor is not problem , nor the truster , BOMBER pirates are problem ! What choice transport has except dock to nearest station attempt ?
No trader will stay and fight against bomber , no mater what armor , shield , weapon or truster it has equipped , becouse it don't have 1 in 1000 chance of win !
So remove bomber pirating and allowe fighter pirating only ( or nerf bombers ) , and traders will stay and fight , isn't PEW better than pay , die or dock ?

I believe pavel just said a healthy dose of Pirate bias is necessary. This is just a recipe for killing pirate activity as a whole.
If you cant stand the heat of a bomber pirate, hire a gunboat freelancer or something, fly in a convoy.

^ Oh , i haven't been destroyed by pirate for at least 6 mounts in my transport , and i was only forced to pay to one to let me go , exactly because i run and dock at first sign of trouble . They are to predictable and easy to avoid , to easy .
What i propose is reason why should i stay and fight .
I am all up for some challenge from pirates , but with curent balance , transport cant win against bombers , so they need trusters to escape .
Want to remove thrusters ? Fine by me , transport cant escape on thrusters anymore , but give them chance they can win battle , remove novas , hellfire's and other weapons that can kill transports in a 10 sec , or rework bomber at what they really shuld be , slow heavily armed ships that are easy to hit , or restrict pirating to fighters only !
If you remove truster and nothing else , you remove only way of defense they have , escape !

EDIT :
Why complains about CAU transports , they can also be mounted on pirate SHF/Bombers/Freighters ?

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[Sombs]

The serious problem with Pirate - Trader interactions is that pirates are separated into cool pirates who demand REASONABLE monies and RP, and (bad word ) pirates who demand 50% of the profit. Maybe adding back sirius credit cards to NPC traders would be a good compromise as pirates would make money by killing NPCs when there are no players around. Nowdays being a pirate isn't really profitable and fact that some of them are (bad) discourages traders to interact with pirates as a whole

Just give 2mil sirius credit card for NPC transports and pirates will demand lower monies --> traders will want to speak with them

Is there any good NPC cargo piracy spots in the mod now anyway for a Pirate Transport?

Bethlehem is fixed. ;D

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[n00bl3t]

The serious problem with Pirate - Trader interactions is that pirates are separated into cool pirates who demand REASONABLE monies and RP, and (bad word ) pirates who demand 50% of the profit. Maybe adding back sirius credit cards to NPC traders would be a good compromise as pirates would make money by killing NPCs when there are no players around. Nowdays being a pirate isn't really profitable and fact that some of them are (bad) discourages traders to interact with pirates as a whole

Just give 2mil sirius credit card for NPC transports and pirates will demand lower monies --> traders will want to speak with them

Is there any good NPC cargo piracy spots in the mod now anyway for a Pirate Transport?

Bethlehem is fixed. ;D

Not sure if ultra-creepy winky face because I was just in-game there.

[Antonio]

Armor is not problem , nor the truster , BOMBER pirates are problem ! What choice transport has except dock to nearest station attempt ?
No trader will stay and fight against bomber , no mater what armor , shield , weapon or truster it has equipped , becouse it don't have 1 in 1000 chance of win !
So remove bomber pirating and allowe fighter pirating only ( or nerf bombers ) , and traders will stay and fight , isn't PEW better than pay , die or dock ?

I'm sorry your 5ker is not able to fight back against a bomber, but that's how the game works. Transports can do very well against bombers, literally any transport with less than 3.6k cargo can beat a bomber 1v1, if you're good that is. Even battletransports can do well against bombers with no hellfires, and 5kers can survive for a solid amount of time before thrusting to the nearest base. Saying that bombers need to be nerfed is just plain stupid.

[Thyrzul]

What choice transport has except dock to nearest station attempt ?

Pay the pirate.

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[Hannibal]

and near-5kers, too

#MakePiracyGreatAgain ? Discuss.

4-5k transports are not a problem,every ship should be able to take it out before being able to dock,if you dont...lets just say its not a balance problem but more of a practice issue (2-4h should be enough for any newbie)

so..nerfing them will not solve anything..what could boost piracy will be some well placed pobs between kusari-liberty ;rheinland -liberty ;bretonia - liberty

example : Galileo

[Xenon]

It's a very bad idea and i don't think it will add any fun to the pirates
Also it will harm the trading and transportation and strike it in the heart ...
Thrusters don't help much the traders but it's a good tool to use sometimes.
I am 100% against this idea and that's just my 2 cents

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[casualty]

The serious problem with Pirate - Trader interactions is that pirates are separated into cool pirates who demand REASONABLE monies and RP, and (bad word ) pirates who demand 50% of the profit. Maybe adding back sirius credit cards to NPC traders would be a good compromise as pirates would make money by killing NPCs when there are no players around. Nowdays being a pirate isn't really profitable and fact that some of them are (bad) discourages traders to interact with pirates as a whole

Just give 2mil sirius credit card for NPC transports and pirates will demand lower monies --> traders will want to speak with them

Is there any good NPC cargo piracy spots in the mod now anyway for a Pirate Transport?

In Tau-29, near Tau-31 gate, some IFL/IMG transports with nice cargo (Tungsten, other metals, Energy Field equipment) generated from time to time.

[Jayce]

Armor is not problem , nor the truster , BOMBER pirates are problem ! What choice transport has except dock to nearest station attempt ?
No trader will stay and fight against bomber , no mater what armor , shield , weapon or truster it has equipped , becouse it don't have 1 in 1000 chance of win !
So remove bomber pirating and allowe fighter pirating only ( or nerf bombers ) , and traders will stay and fight , isn't PEW better than pay , die or dock ?

I'm sorry your 5ker is not able to fight back against a bomber, but that's how the game works. Transports can do very well against bombers, literally any transport with less than 3.6k cargo can beat a bomber 1v1, if you're good that is. Even battletransports can do well against bombers with no hellfires, and 5kers can survive for a solid amount of time before thrusting to the nearest base. Saying that bombers need to be nerfed is just plain stupid.

Antonio, look who you quoted. You probably shouldn't be surprised.

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[Connor]

What's the betting most of these people that are complaining about being killed by bombers don't use armour? As soon as you go over the SNAC/Torp Hull damage you force the bomber into a longer fight which means you can escape easier.

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