(06-30-2016, 07:24 AM)Venkman Wrote: You should really stop using internet.
Why? Maybe i can be a reason to correct some people who have your thoughts
Accept racism or stop using internet ... education is mess indeed.
I think it's time, i should stop this conversation with you, since you are now trolling :| .. shame i thought you are mature and civilized person.
(06-30-2016, 07:24 AM)Venkman Wrote: You should really stop using internet.
Why? Maybe i can be a reason to correct some people who have your thoughts
Accept racism or stop using internet ... education is mess indeed.
I think it's time, i should stop this conversation with you, since you are not trolling .. shame i thought you are mature and civilized person.
You're just a person that can't take a joke and takes everything personally, which is sad, but w/e I thought you were different. I guess I was wrong. And don't give me the mature/civilized bs... just don't, it's lame.
(06-30-2016, 07:32 AM)Venkman Wrote: You're just a person that can't take a joke and takes everything personally, which is sad, but w/e I thought you were different. I guess I was wrong. And don't give me the mature/civilized bs... just don't, it's lame.
People that respect themselves like me, tend to focus on being polite and respect others feelings ...
You consider being racist, as a joke? ... I only can laugh at the amount of ignorance
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(06-30-2016, 07:32 AM)Venkman Wrote: You're just a person that can't take a joke and takes everything personally, which is sad, but w/e I thought you were different. I guess I was wrong. And don't give me the mature/civilized bs... just don't, it's lame.
People that respect themselves like me, tend to focus on being polite and respect others feelings ...
You consider being racist, as a joke? ... I only can laugh at the amount of ignorance
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So people that don't respect themselves don't like you? Huh... interesting.
You know, at first I was very tempted to make a joke on how Lyth probably submitted too many player requests and it was easier to ban him, rather than process them, but oh well. Might as well make a more serious one.
The recent events on Discovery has rekindled a very particular feeling that I've not felt for a few years. The best way I can describe it is uncertainty in both Discovery as a community project and the future of my own participation which is, once more, completely out of my control.
I will be the first one to say that I am far from being a model community member, but I would like to think that over the course of the last few years, I've reduced my footprint on the admin radar by a considerable amount. That being said, it was also the case for a few of the banned members. So watching them being slapped like that is not as much disheartening, but rather worrisome.
The administration team made some mentions of the system being made more transparent. Instead it seems that they took this bunch of players to make them an example for the other members. The fact that they deliberately did not mention names of other ''potential candidates'' only reinforces this feeling. That this is a vague spearshake at troublemakers that would have been effective a few years back when we had people knowlegable and driven enough to replace them, but now the Discovery Community has condensed so much that removing these ''troublesome'' members will have a severe impact on the activity of certain factions. Note that most of these people are faction leaders. Now, you do not want bad members to have that title and power over an ID, but at the same time there is no denying that these people were highly active for better or for worse.
This should have been a sanction thread with "Members Banned / Warned" with the involved community members given a ban, while all of the remaining people on the chopping board would have gotten the warning part of the thread.
Instead it seemed to be an excuse to give problematic and potentially problematic members a jolt to the backside. Something Disco needs, but I am doubting that THIS was the way to go for it. In either case, people who are currently arguing against this judgement, remember what happened the last time when the community made threads regarding poor choices on behalf of the team. I am talking about the sanction imposed on me and Protēž and Dawson Rogues regarding shooting off someone's turrets. That thread was 10 pages long at the end of its life, during which no admin bothered to post and simply waited out for it to lose steam, fade off the list before invisib-ing it.
This is the same thing that will probably happen now. I am eager to be proven wrong.
So what now. If I am one of the members to feel paranoid about this sudden culling of members regardless of when was the last time they've done something questionable, should I even bother putting any effort into Discovery if the next batch of bans will happen the next day anyway? Dunno, you tell me.
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why we even discussing banned users ? They got banned for a reason and I actually feed bad about Lyth & yea I hate him some time for some staff, whatever. and stop this discussing it won't let them back soon.
Xenon you still same like I saw you in SD/DIE clan :|
I don't find the bans wrong. What I find wrong is the mentality of "they were banned indefinitely, so there must be some very solid reason for it". That's not how it should work. One might assume that you ought to present a solid reason for a solid ban, and present it before everyone. Transparency is the word isn't it? And not leave the community hit their heads against the wall trying to figure out why was that decision taken.
The bans were perhaps justified, but the way they were handled was what caused this whole all out outcry in the first place.
Disco has had so many "final nails" that the tomb must be more nail than coffin at this point.
Faction leaders have been banned before, the factions will either continue under new leadership or fade away until someone new takes up the reins as it's always been. Those who have been banned still have a chance of coming back after the 6 month period if they make a strong enough case for their return.
The best thing to do now is simply carry on and have some fun.