Liberty Navy [LN] Feedback Thread

[Zyliath]

Mhm...I have a question for ol' @Arbi :3

Is there a LN indie comm thread?
Thanks ~Zy

[Skorak]

This one: Liberty Forces Message dump

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[Apollon]

cheers,


had a fight with some of you guys earlier in penny. Now dont get me wrong as i really enjoy a faction able to get some players online fast even outside of prime time. There is just this absolutely unnecessary behaviour of one of your members:

we first met in magellan, later in california. no one expects you to fight two cau8 BS in a very heavy fighter, so you changed to your bs and called a friend for help, facing us at bethlehem station, penny. all fine so far.

you two were damaged but escaped. no problem here either.
you called additional support which we met at the NY jumpgate in penny. But, and THAT is the point i was kind of disappointed about...as you two joined the fight as well, i noticed you both were fully repaired and re-equipped...

so instead of just team up with your mates, you also docked, repaired, restocked and reengaged us...already having the superior numbers.
Its not just RP wise a bit odd to repair a battleship within 5 mins but also took away any chance of an interesting fight.

other than that it was fun, although the location wasnt exactly the best choice for our ships xD

see you around

Dakun

First of all, The VHF you encountered was a different person that the first Libdread that came first, the LABC, and the other Libdread that came last near the NY jump gate.
Any intelligent human being can see that a VHF and an LABC can't take down two CAU 8 Zoner battleships. The call for the two additional Libdreads - one of which was myself - was reasonable.
I don't particularly remember any of the LibDreads getting repaired. Unless you mean the LABC, then I, with all honesty, can say that docking repairing an LABC was a reasonable move by the player.

Its not just RP wise a bit odd to repair a battleship within 5 mins but also took away any chance of an interesting fight.

I don't believe that bringing two Zoner battleships to Liberty and roaming around with them is legitimate RP, but whatever.

@Zyliath: What Skorak said. Liberty Forces Message Dump

Any indie or member of an unofficial LN faction can post there. And we highly encourage the use of it by indies as they may also be awarded with medals by [LN] HC depending on how they conduct and report.

[Shizune]

I want to personally kudos the LN for the 2 interactions yesterday with Lane Jumper. I had tons of fun with both situations and all players there handled the situation flawlessly. I Kudos the LN and those players that were at each interaction. Keep up the good work.

[Arbs]

Hello everyone and thanks for your inputs!

I suppose about that zoner thing, ghost has clarified it very well. And well let us know if anything and we can work it out any time

Aand for zyliah the ol' doge, feel free to use the thread skorak and ghost linked to you, we check everything that gets posted there. Aand yeah we can also reward indies with letters of commendation or so.


And shizu thanks bud, we try to give people fun interaction rp and pvp alike. Glad you enjoyed it.


Have fun aand see yall in space.

[kun]

First of all, The VHF you encountered was a different person that the first Libdread that came first, the LABC, and the other Libdread that came last near the NY jump gate.

This is Commander Kingston reporting in.

I launched from the Yukon hearing word of two large unknowns in Magellan, mostly word from our men on Freeport 4. I jumped through the gate, and quckly identified them as ORIZON|Dakun and ORIZON|Uzed, two heavily armed Zoner "Nephilim"-class Juggernaut Colony Ships. They were on course for the Gate, and I informed them that if they jumped, they would regret their decision.
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I flew back and acquired the L.N.S. Plymouth Rock to deal with the vessels, which had flown to a theorized safety at Bethlehem. Our weapons we no match for them, however, and we were forced to pull back. We pulled some hastened emergency repairs on Erie, before launching back out,

according to the guy himself it was the same person.

Any intelligent human being can see that a VHF and an LABC can't take down two CAU 8 Zoner battleships. The call for the two additional Libdreads - one of which was myself - was reasonable.

yes but they still decided to attack us and the fight started right there, which means docking and repairing while we were still pursuing them counts as pvp death...

...with all honesty, can say that docking repairing an LABC was a reasonable move by the player.

...so re-engaging us right afterwards is actually against the rules and as such i wouldnt exactly call it a "reasonable move".





however this is a feedback thread, so i gave some feedback as this behavior really took out some fun of the fight for us.


cheers

[Apollon]

according to the guy himself it was the same person.

Sure. But I don't see anything wrong with someone docking to fetch a more suitable ship to combat two Zoner Battleships.

yes but they still decided to attack us and the fight started right there, which means docking and repairing while we were still pursuing them counts as pvp death...

...with all honesty, can say that docking repairing an LABC was a reasonable move by the player.

...so re-engaging us right afterwards is actually against the rules and as such i wouldnt exactly call it a "reasonable move".

4.3 Docking during combat with hostiles in docking message range (15k) counts as PvP Death, except for Traders

Unless you have any evidence that can prove that the fighter docked within 15K of you, and then opened fire at you. I'm not convinced. And if you actually do have any, I'd appreciate sharing it with us so we can sort it out with the player responsible.

[kun]

Sure. But I don't see anything wrong with someone docking to fetch a more suitable ship to combat two Zoner Battleships.

There is nothing wrong with it. Never said there is.
Just said it was the same guy, as you seemed to be pretty certain in your first answer that it wasnt.

Unless you have any evidence that can prove that the fighter docked within 15K of you, and then opened fire at you. I'm not convinced. And if you actually do have any, I'd appreciate sharing it with us so we can sort it out with the player responsible.

i dont seek any sanction report or vengeance through forumlancer or whatever. the two pilots in question know what happened, my feedback was to tell them that in my opinion their actions ruined the fight. If they take it as advice for future encounters, disregard it or not reading it at all is up to them.

[Apollon]

There is nothing wrong with it. Never said there is.
Just said it was the same guy, as you seemed to be pretty certain in your first answer that it wasnt.

I was the second dread to arrive, so I hadn't witnessed any of our ships docking and switching ships. I had only made assumptions. Nonetheless, you seemed very bothered by a fighter docking and switching ships to a more suitable one.

i dont seek any sanction report or vengeance through forumlancer or whatever. the two pilots in question know what happened, my feedback was to tell them that in my opinion their actions ruined the fight. If they take it as advice for future encounters, disregard it or not reading it at all is up to them.

You obviously lack the understanding of the rule I quoted for you. The player who engaged you in a fighter actually docked on Riverside whereas you were already in Pennsylvania, which means you were in a whole different system. As for when he docked to restock the LABC before the dreads came, he took the trade lane to Planet Erie whereas you were near Bethlahem or Philadelphia, which means at least 45K distance between you.

Please. Before you start making accusations about breaking server rules, read the rules carefully and understand them, and actually not break them yourself.

[kun]

I was the second dread to arrive, so I hadn't witnessed any of our ships docking and switching ships. I had only made assumptions. Nonetheless, you seemed very bothered by a fighter docking and switching ships to a more suitable one.


You obviously lack the understanding of the rule I quoted for you. The player who engaged you in a fighter actually docked on Riverside whereas you were already in Pennsylvania, which means you were in a whole different system. As for when he docked to restock the LABC before the dreads came, he took the trade lane to Planet Erie whereas you were near Bethlahem or Philadelphia, which means at least 45K distance between you.

ok it is pretty obvious that you have no idea about what happened. i dont care about some fighter docking somewhere. we chased the BS attacking us in front of Bethlehem to the next Station, where it docked a few Ks in front of us....not in another universe, another System or 500Ks away from us, but just outside of fire range. we then headed for NY, where we met you guys in front of the jumpgate...and we then were joined by the very same BS, no charlog or anything...the same character...just repaired and restocked. And he wasnt there to watch but attacked. That is why i posted here...as i think this is a very low behavior...regardless if it is allowed or not... and someone like you coming around, who has seen nothing but stating this as a "reasonable move" is just great.

so maybe if you could just stick to the things you actually have witnessed or know anything about d be very helpful, thanks.

Please. Before you start making accusations about breaking server rules, read the rules carefully and understand them, and actually not break them yourself.

if i broke any rules, be sure a lot of ppl already snuck to the admins.