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Offline Jayce
08-21-2016, 03:19 PM,
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Frankly, Outcasts were intended to be space Italian mobsters, not Mexican cartels.

Well-dressed, well-spoken, violent only when needed. It was the playerbase of old mod versions that turned them into crooked criminals that are no better than your average Rogue.

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Offline Shiki
08-21-2016, 03:26 PM,
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(08-21-2016, 03:06 PM)Ace Razgriz Wrote:
(08-21-2016, 02:58 PM)Shiki Wrote: @Ace Razgriz
Welp. There is 14 towns/cities in America named after my city in Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa_(disambiguation)

Well I say Toledo as a reference to Liberty and not Spain because.

-Orillion was Libertonian

-Toledo, Ohio is a major city compared to the municipality of Toledo, Spain.

-Odessa, California is a railway siding section

Well, I'm European history person, so I know spanish Toledo better. Never thought it's so small novadays. D:

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Offline HoakinBlackforge
08-21-2016, 03:41 PM,
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As i am spanish, i must say that the Outcasts and Corsairs story are quite screwed up.
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Offline Zephyranthes
08-21-2016, 04:12 PM,
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(08-21-2016, 03:41 PM)HoakinBlackforge Wrote: As i am spanish, i must say that the Outcasts and Corsairs story are quite screwed up.

Seconded, as a Cuban.
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Offline Divine
08-21-2016, 04:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-21-2016, 04:29 PM by Divine.)
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The original names been Ishmael for Malta and Madrid for Crete, maybe that helps making a better distinction. There used to be infocards on Malta that referenced to a not small part of the people being catholic, but for some reason this infocard seems to've gone.

The Mediterranean Sea region of Earth is basically the origin of both Maltese and Cretans, so their planets and stations are christened with names from that whole region as the people on the Hispania been from all over that region.

The difference is that when the Hispania was sabotaged, some decided to stay with the wreck and the nearby planet, while others decided to move on. Those that stayed became the Maltese, those that moved on the Cretans.

It's not really science.

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Offline Enkidu
08-21-2016, 06:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-21-2016, 06:10 PM by Enkidu.)
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Where the hell is South America? How on earth is Italy meant to be more relevant than Brazil in 2200?

Who randomly decided Malta = Italy, and why?

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Offline Ace Razgriz
08-21-2016, 06:12 PM,
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(08-21-2016, 06:09 PM)Erinyes Wrote: Who randomly decided Malta = Italy, and why?

EUROPE


that is all

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Offline Enkidu
08-21-2016, 06:19 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-21-2016, 06:24 PM by Enkidu.)
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(08-21-2016, 06:12 PM)Ace Razgriz Wrote:
(08-21-2016, 06:09 PM)Erinyes Wrote: Who randomly decided Malta = Italy, and why?

EUROPE


that is all

I know you're joking, but I'm going to go full Internet and answer seriously.

Malta's geographic closeness to Sicily doesn't make it Italian. The people speak Maltese and English. It's been owned by Spain, France, Britain, at various points. You have the Knights of Malta.

The point is Chris Roberts decided to lump hundreds of Romance languages together and loads of nationalities - and now you end up with weird Italian stereotyping for Outcasts and Corsairs being this bizarre group of pocket racism.

The player factions have not helped.

Hell, culturally, Space-Britain, Space-USA, Space-Canada should be one entity if we're going that far to smother distinctions in allied nations. It's ridiculous Bretonia and Liberty are distinct from each other but loads of southern Europeans are lumped into two offensive "brown people" niche as criminals and parasitic to more "developed" societies. It's like the game was written with Hitler's better known work in one hand and the advice of the KKK in the other.

The same have been done to the Pot-o'-gold-top-of-the-mornin'-to-yer-terrorist-Space-Irish you see in the FL universe.

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Offline Shiki
08-21-2016, 06:21 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-21-2016, 06:23 PM by Shiki.)
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(08-21-2016, 06:09 PM)Erinyes Wrote: Where the hell is South America?

In the same place with India, Middle East and Africa.

As for Malta == Italy, I kinda agree that it's actually wrong. Beause Maltese language is a specific version of arabic and have nothing to do with Italian. Once again, everyone has his/her own vision for the simple reason: lack of vanilla information.

And Freelancer is Euro-centric game lorewise, 3 of 5 sleeperships are european. In disco we at least have some Coalition people sneaked into the Sirius, so you have more abilities to RP.

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Offline Ryummel
08-21-2016, 06:22 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-21-2016, 06:23 PM by Ryummel.)
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There were christians, muslims and jews coexisting peacefully in Toledo (Spain) for almost 400 years (1085 - 1492) until the latter were expelled.

I like to think The Order chose the name of Toledo to remind people that their fight against Nomads involved every human, no matter their beliefs, House, etc...

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