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Shaggy · 09-08-2016, 01:51 PM,

(09-08-2016, 01:48 PM)Mímir Wrote: Uhhm, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this thread started by one of your guys, encouraging some oorp retconning? And now when things don't really go your way, you cut and run from your own thread, leaving behind a few teary-eyed remarks.

Come on guys, does it never get tiresome tugging at the ol' heartstrings...? Didn't one of you quit once already today, how are you gonna up the ante this time then? How sorry should we feel for you on a scale from 1-10?

To me it looks like you all just got rekt by Shaggy. My mind is blown yet again.

Mimir let me just clarify how many "Left" today. If I am able to count to five that is . Five of them infact left because of what happened and what is even more funny. Apparently there was only 3 A/) there?

Clavius · 09-08-2016, 01:55 PM,

(09-08-2016, 12:37 PM)Legionnaire Wrote: Here is my answer on this thread.

(09-08-2016, 01:48 PM)Mímir Wrote: Uhhm, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this thread started by one of your guys, encouraging some oorp retconning? And now when things don't really go your way, you cut and run from your own thread, leaving behind a few teary-eyed remarks.

Come on guys, does it never get tiresome tugging at the ol' heartstrings...? Didn't one of you quit once already today, how are you gonna up the ante this time then? How sorry should we feel for you on a scale from 1-10?

To me it looks like you all just got rekt by Shaggy. My mind is blown yet again.

These 2 posts sum it up pretty nicely.

Omi · 09-08-2016, 01:57 PM,

The last time I tried to enforce RP consequences on Auxesia, they jumped straight into a trade lane and mined it behind them. The only one who's ever shown anything more than contempt towards others' RP (from where I'm sitting) is @"Erinyes/Tanith".

I remember another time, too, where Nyx had Karst log a no-name FL snub to drop a lane in the middle of Liberty so that the two Aux present could skip on out to Bering.

Considering my experiences with how Aux and co deal with their messes, it's hard for me to feel any sympathy whatsoever looking at this latest fiasco. A faction full of people that, both iRP and ooRP, swan around not giving a toss who or what they affect was bound to run out of friends on both sides of the fence sooner or later.

Ace Razgriz · 09-08-2016, 01:59 PM,

(09-08-2016, 01:48 PM)Mímir Wrote: Uhhm, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this thread started by one of your guys, encouraging some oorp retconning? And now when things don't really go your way, you cut and run from your own thread, leaving behind a few teary-eyed remarks.

Come on guys, does it never get tiresome tugging at the ol' heartstrings...? Didn't one of you quit once already today, how are you gonna up the ante this time then? How sorry should we feel for you on a scale from 1-10?

To me it looks like you all just got rekt by Shaggy. My mind is blown yet again.

Except it wasn't just shaggy, it was order, Cr, scra, BHG, outcasts, and apparently an Oracle as well. There is not a problem with dying in a tank, there IS a problem when the entire server gets together for an oorp gank cause "aux is a meme"

**Sombs** · 09-08-2016, 02:01 PM,

So is now everyone suddenly appearing to post their unwanted opinion as an outsider?

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Shaggy · 09-08-2016, 02:02 PM,

(09-08-2016, 01:59 PM)Ace Razgriz Wrote:
(09-08-2016, 01:48 PM)Mímir Wrote: Uhhm, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this thread started by one of your guys, encouraging some oorp retconning? And now when things don't really go your way, you cut and run from your own thread, leaving behind a few teary-eyed remarks.

Come on guys, does it never get tiresome tugging at the ol' heartstrings...? Didn't one of you quit once already today, how are you gonna up the ante this time then? How sorry should we feel for you on a scale from 1-10?

To me it looks like you all just got rekt by Shaggy. My mind is blown yet again.

Except it wasn't just shaggy, it was order, Cr, scra, BHG, outcasts, and apparently an Oracle as well. There is not a problem with dying in a tank, there IS a problem when the entire server gets together for an oorp gank cause "aux is a meme"

Wait so you are blaming OC for shooting Aux? actaully infact CR was busy shooting the Oucasts the whole time and even "Requested" support from A/) and I also got a nice //pm from one of the A/) telling me to get one of my guys out so he can jump in. OORP keep in mind.

But as you A/) are aware CR| sent BHG a message with the situation the other day about BH in Coronado space, they are "not" wanted there but with the situation at hand Admiral Chandler did not mind them being there. We did not call for any BHG| to arrive.

SCRA on the other hand are allies of CR|
Order are also allies of CR|

The Oracle| well it seems CR| have no clue who or what they are inrp so that will be further RP to find out what an Oracle is.

Clavius · 09-08-2016, 02:03 PM,

(09-08-2016, 01:59 PM)Ace Razgriz Wrote:
(09-08-2016, 01:48 PM)Mímir Wrote: Uhhm, correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this thread started by one of your guys, encouraging some oorp retconning? And now when things don't really go your way, you cut and run from your own thread, leaving behind a few teary-eyed remarks.

Come on guys, does it never get tiresome tugging at the ol' heartstrings...? Didn't one of you quit once already today, how are you gonna up the ante this time then? How sorry should we feel for you on a scale from 1-10?

To me it looks like you all just got rekt by Shaggy. My mind is blown yet again.

Except it wasn't just shaggy, it was order, Cr, scra, BHG, outcasts, and apparently an Oracle as well. There is not a problem with dying in a tank, there IS a problem when the entire server gets together for an oorp gank cause "aux is a meme"

CR/SCRA/Order are all allies inRP so I see no problem with that. Regarding the OC destroyer, he was actually with Auxesia.
Stop victimising yourself and deal with the consiquences of your RP.

Shaggy · 09-08-2016, 02:03 PM,

(09-08-2016, 02:01 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: So is now everyone suddenly appearing to post their unwanted opinion as an outsider?

Sombra im infact 1ic of CR| Im allowed here as the thread title says To: Order|, CR| Leaders

**Kauket** · 09-08-2016, 02:06 PM,

(09-08-2016, 01:19 PM)Shaggy Wrote: Then A/)Battlecruiser left and you left behind her and oh returned together :O isn't that a coincidence. hmmm no? I think so. Not only that but Tia Stormclaw has stated and you just said it yourself. You have assisted them on several occassions right

You've got to be legitimately kidding me.

You are.

Okay.

oh wow.

You said so yourself that you DIDN'T SEE Darius until he approached after, it was only me and Shovel at the time of going to the planet because Darius was about 50k behind.

Quote:[07.09.2016 22:36:54] GB-Redemption: Holy sh*t.
[07.09.2016 22:36:59] A/)-ACV-Cincinnati: wot
[07.09.2016 22:37:02] GB-Redemption: First time I actualy left Barrier Rim xD
[07.09.2016 22:40:18] A/)-ACV-Eidolon.Wraith: k so got coronado
[07.09.2016 22:40:21] A/)-ACV-Eidolon.Wraith: baffin is technically a tau
[07.09.2016 22:40:27] A/)-ACV-Cincinnati: ye
[07.09.2016 22:40:36] The.Shovel: that jumphole, is it gonna get active next patch?
[07.09.2016 22:40:42] A/)-ACV-Eidolon.Wraith: no

Assisting against Nomads doesn't mean working - Keywords.
We never said we didn't know Stormclaw, we said we didn't know the incident.
You're making things up now. Please don't contradict yourself like that.

(09-08-2016, 01:01 PM)Shaggy Wrote: You are claiming and making accusations that what happened ingame was ALL OORP. Well sad news for you. No it was not, non of what happened ingame was OORP. If anyone took this OORP it was A/), there is DSAce logs and video evidence of Keeper Raven speaking with like Nyx does in real life. Unless you both talk exactly the same then that is not really a inrp character. That is you implementing your real self into a video game? Like who does that right. (this is not a personal assault)

Let's analyse this.

You said so yourself that you thought it was an OORP matter,

[00:07:54] Shaggy: So you DID NOT declare war on Order even in CR space?
[00:08:01] Shaggy: then set them up with a FL GB who then FOLLOWED you around

ALL of my characters have some form of character sheet and a lesser guideline. So no, none of them are imports.

It is personal assault.

Quote:non of what happened ingame was OORP.

Clearly that'll explain why Shizune coincidentally knew Darius was an affiliate? Right? Or how BHG + Scra+Order| magically turn up.

Or you know, you dissing the fact that you were told in mid-interaction that Darius made a mistake.

Quote:So the investigation starts and as I was doing two things myself and the indie was both on teamspeak together so I could keep getting updates of what was happening and not only that but to get him to ask questions inrp to see the out comes of the questions.

What roleplay? You're still failing to answer that question.

We all saw the oorp logs of you guys grouping up and the other player twisting the situation.

Why didn't the Order| get any RP? Why didn't they get hours of 'lectures'? Why was your group suddenly BIASED towards the Order after that incident?

Some things don't quite add up.

Quote:Keeper Raven was answering the questions before the freelancer. A/) was answering the questions of what happened before the battlecruiser arrived. Auxesia was answering the questions on the problems of the gunboat. Now if you had NO clue who this freelancer gunboat inrp was how can you know everything about there ship if it is the first contact. There was also a little mistake made.

I was answering questions that were directed at me.

Spoiler

what

The ossie had TWO MORTARS.

TWO.

It was literally just you folks looking for a reason to incite stuff. I had already forwarded you the screenshots over skype/ts.

Which was this.
http://i.imgur.com/YN9gPrz.png
Oh look there's two mortars.

Quote:Auxesia was answering the questions on the problems of the gunboat.

I type faster, and most of the questions were stupidly repetitive because most of our answers were aligned with each other. Again, just even more fishing for reasons to support your oorp opinion.

Quote:So not long after A/) battlecruiser leaves and funny thing happens. The GB also follows the A/) battlecruiser, not 30 minutes later A/) return with the Cincinatti and The.Shovel. Well for starters what has The.Shovel got to do with CR| or A/). like is it not a foreign capital ship and should it not need a permit?

All ships have permission.

CR have been overlooking it for months. CR have even said they were permitted - ingame - and even on the forums. As far as I'm aware - the Shovel has permission from CR. You RANDOMLY redacted permission because of oorp behaviour.

I've actually caught one of your members outright saying the Shovel has permission to be here.

Quote:This also goes for all A/) capital ships APART from the Cincinnati. There was RP months ago for the Cincinnati to have temporary access to Sabah and to Coronado but it seems that it has only just finished to be complete yestarday evening. This is when it gets funny.

He said he was picking up equipment - the whole access to Sabah thing was for an SRP change. Which the Admins have absolutely no word on. No admins knows the status of it. No one has been discussing it.

Quote:[07.09.2016 22:46:08] A/)-ACV-Cincinnati: C: We had some equipment to retreive from Sabah. They were mapping a local anomaly.
[07.09.2016 22:46:16] A/)-ACV-Eidolon.Wraith: Raven: Turns out we had to go another complementary patrol.
[07.09.2016 22:46:28] A/)-ACV-Cincinnati: C: You'll be happy to know that our production at Sabah is completed. We'll no longer be needing clearance.

The shipyard thing was going on for too long. A small weapon change doesn't take two months.

Quote:There turns out to be a A/) Battlecruiser, Cincinnati, The Shovel and the GB all turn up together. Right now this is the funny part. Keeper Raven was saying one thing, they came from one direction but then the one in charge of the Cincinnati was saying something completely different. They are infact now contradicting there own people because they don't know where they came from...

You didn't even /bother/ to look at the screenshots AND THE VIDEO that I sent.

https://youtu.be/LMWGTGnphzk?t=1m17s

We went to Baja, I was showing around the players stuff. Just generally hanging out. You BLATANTLY see us go by Baja. Guess what. We only saw Zeus. Stop throwing the word contradiction around, it doesn't make you look better. No one is contradicting anything.

We literally told you about seven times.

Quote:During the time A/) Battlecruiser and the GB leave, myself and the indie went to Sabah to question the Order Osiris to get Both sides let me make that capital letters. BOTH SIDES of the story to make an investigation. It then was clear enough to us as CR that it was a set up, and a set up CR saw straight through. Admiral Chandler then called for reinforcements and that is when more CR| logged in and started patrols.

Set up? Based on what evidence?
Oh right, because you were told on Skype. Got it.

There's virtually no inroleplay evidence. If you actually took the game with half-seriousness, you'd know a GUNBOAT WITH SOLARIS WILL NOT DESHIELD AN OSIRIS. Furthermore - Why would the Ossie shoot back without asking ANYTHING?

By the way, still waiting to see those glorious RP logs.

Quote:Not only this right but we asked them if they saw certain ships which are moored at Sabah and the answer was -they are not moored there now- infact there is a nice fleet moored at Sabah and alot of Order HC there. If you flew past Sabah then you would have seen not only 1 CR cruiser, but 2 and a nyx, but also INRP you would have seen a fleet of Order around Sabah and more CR ships. But you deny all of this. You say you came from "Baja anomoly" to HELP AI out.

Remember my glorious quote about the cheese shop and language interpertation?

"[04/08/2016 07:59:14] ~(˘▾˘~): original message could be: I'm going to the shop to buy some cheese

->

"they're going to buy a cheese shop" "

That's the biggest issue of this, I think. You need more than one person to interpet this scenario, you said so yourself that you have dyslexia and will occassionally misread things. That's why I also get people to proof read my things and to occassionally fly with others. This is one of those things - concerning the AI part.

Quote:Not only this right but we asked them if they saw certain ships which are moored at Sabah and the answer was -they are not moored there now- infact there is a nice fleet moored at Sabah and alot of Order HC there.

Gameplay doesn't equal to lore. For all we know, it's scanners that matter - lemme explain this sentence because I know people WILL take it out of context.

We didn't see any /active/ signals of the Order - all we saw was a POB, a shipyard, and the planet. We don't know if they're constantly moored there. It would be powergaming if we went and said, "lol entire order fleet right infront of me" - without asking about it.

Quote:If you flew past Sabah then you would have seen not only 1 CR cruiser, but 2 and a nyx, but also INRP you would have seen a fleet of Order around Sabah and more CR ships. But you deny all of this. You say you came from "Baja anomoly" to HELP AI out.

Here we go with the cheese shop incident. We didn't see anyone but Zeus. I saw Zeus flying towards Cortez jumphole. It's shown in that video that my screenshots only show Zeus. I deny it because it was the truth. Again, making lesser arguments to further oorp motives.

Oh and if you believe some are edited or deleted, check the top left corner of the screen, the numbers match up, there's no missing number.

Quote:But wait a minute, you are "Exploring CR Space in WAR SHIPS" to help AI. But did you actaully ask CR for permission to do this??? No don't think you did. So right now there is a big situation not only that but Grand Admiral Golanski with the flagship arrive at the scene while. The Shovel accidently fires a cruiser missile at a CR| ship and then cloaks and vanishes.

You already gave us permission to be in Coronado. You actually never mentioned that in your initial arguments either - about the permission parts anyway. Again, more digging for the coal train.

'Grand Admiral Golanski' only arrived because people told him to on Skype as we were outnumbered. As said by people, who were discussing it on skype.

Which was because Jeremy admitted he called in more CR+Scra to help with engagements.

Spoiler

It's not your fault Jeremy. I don't blame you. If I saw someone I hated, I kinda expect people to overreact about it and go overkill.

Quote:The Shovel accidently fires a cruiser missile at a CR| ship and then cloaks and vanishes.

Cheese shop incident again.

I TOLD YOU he had to go because of IRL. He hit the wrong button instead of the cloak button.

logs

Again, more digging for oorp motives. (lol my ship doesn't even have missiles what the hell?)

Quote:The GB in question is still with A/) ships all this time, and starts acting like a good friend of A/) saying lets go this will end messy. infact they were right. it did end messy and the out come is you don't like it and you are salty. I received a personal assault and attack on skype and in the OFL chat from several A/) members because of they were caught out inrp.

I tried to explain to you ingame, ts, skype that it was not what it seemed. You still went ahead and went basically, "lol u liar dontcare" etcetc.

The only time I go down to personal attack if people are being so blatantly ignorant. Which is what is still happening.

But oh boy.
You have no idea how many personal attacks I get on a daily basis, and so do my faction members.

sure it doesn't make me any better for doing it, but people are starting to annoy me and it hella feels better to let it loose. Also, no, I don't hate you personally - but maybe I do hold a bigger grudge that you decide to flip me off instead of listen. Of course I'm going to call you mean names on the internet if you flip me off.

Quote:The GB in question is still with A/) ships all this time, and starts acting like a good friend of A/) saying lets go this will end messy. infact they were right. it did end messy and the out come is you don't like it and you are salty.

He wasn't at all of the times, remember the part you didn't see him until later?

I actually haven't hanged out with Darius' character, if anything, I've been avoiding them. I only managed to talk/hang out with them yesterday because I was telling them about the affiliate page.

Quote:it did end messy and the out come is you don't like it and you are salty.

Because it was OORP. You know it. And salty is a dumb term.

Again.

I don't MIND in RP conflict - but going out of your way to forge OORP lynches is dumb and bad play.

I don't care if you accept it - because we're certainly not making it canon or even accept the incident happened.

This isn't bringing RP. At all. This is causing drama. And you know it.

I can't believe you wanted me to gank Outcasts who were having a snubfight while I was in a Battlecruiser. And then even using oorp etiquette as an inrp excuse. Low. Pathetic.

I don't blame people that are leaving or who are tired of this recurrent theme of Discovery. I've asked people to stop posting, but hey, it's their own free will, not mine.

**Sombs** · (This post was last modified: 09-08-2016, 02:07 PM by Sombs.)

Then you're not an outsider. I was talking about the other randos. Common sense.

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