I'd like to point out that abusing the fact that players can't be everywhere is generally regarded to be about as low as jumphole spamming. And that's LOW. It's also equivalent to saying "well I beat up Znoes on my Rogue, got landing rights to Norfolk because the game is an idiot, and *stole* an Assault Carrier". Which gets sanctions.
The RoS and 101st are Outcast Military, and have as much right to police ALL of Outcast space as the Southern Alliance, LSF, LPI, KNF, KSP, QCO/QCR, BPA, RM, and RFP have to police theirs. If you want to contest all of that, go right ahead. But keep it in perspective, please.
Here's another example. If you take a Blood Dragon bomber or VHF without either A) belonging to either the official Blood Dragon or Golden Chrysanthemum faction or B) without the official Blood Dragon faction's explicit authorisation, both the GC and BD will shoot you dead every time you enter our weapons range within Kusari for being thieves and traitors.
We'll probably make a demand to know what you're doing with the vessel the veryfirst time we encounter you, of course. Without a satisfactory answer, we'll then proceed to kill you and mark you for death until you either sell the ship or never enter Kusari ever again (and proceed to pass the word around to our allies that you're to be shot on sight).
There's nothing wrong with independents flying any ships that a faction has control over, but the independents must be willing to RP with and ASK the faction permission to fly it. If refused, they shouldn't go and buy it anyway either. They should reflect on what they might be doing wrong and rectify it. If they show improvement and ask again later, their request may be granted. I would personally prefer to see them simply join the faction, but well...can't have everything.
' Wrote:Here's another example. If you take a Blood Dragon bomber or VHF without either A) belonging to either the official Blood Dragon or Golden Chrysanthemum faction or B) without the official Blood Dragon faction's explicit authorisation, both the GC and BD will shoot you dead every time you enter our weapons range within Kusari for being thieves and traitors.
That's not true, I have been flying a BD bomber since nearly day one, and have never been hassled by the Nova or the CG, even in my cruiser. The cruiser only comes out when it's needed, and my in game rp is just fine, as you know.
It sounds like several clans want a clan only server, where there are no indies, only people who look like indies that the clan guys can boss around.
And you miss out the bit where I say that I will help people write a roleplay story so they can get their ship. man you have a terrible attitude to all this.
"Must... focus... on negative.. elements.... arguement failing... KAABOOOMMMM!"
You want me to, what was it, "if it was just that you would only target the people who do that, instead of targeting everyone not in the 101st"? In that case, tell me how the hell we're supposed to do that? The current system gives me a way to monitor the rather copious Destroyer population and keep the Outcast Dreadnoughts and Battleships from becoming too common. If I see somebody doing something they shouldn't I just make a post threatening to put them KoS and they either shape up or die every time they get on the server. Sure as hell seems like it'll work, too, since the inability to log on safely is a bit of a detriment to playing...this is like the Census Bureau or the IRS. They keep track of people to make sure they follow the rules. Get used to it.
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' Wrote:In that case, tell me how the hell we're supposed to do that?
The same you are persecuting all indies in corsair ships now, except you limit your persecution to those that actually chat like 'Lolz I am outcast I kills you n00b'
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
' Wrote:And you miss out the bit where I say that I will help people write a roleplay story so they can get their ship.
What difference does that make? If you see a guy posting 'Lolz I am outcast I kills you n00b', you're going to help him get approved? I hope not. If he isn't rping poorly or being an ass why does he need to post something, because in that case he isn't a detriment to the server.
That's the point you don't get, you are persecuting good rp'rs when it isn't needed, based on them not joining your clan. So what's the real reason for that?
' Wrote:Umm...excuse me? How the hell am I supposed to keep track of them? These people have to have track records, hello.
Try to think this through, all the way through, OK?
If you can't keep track of them playing poorly now, then how can you in the future, registration or no registration?
I mean, in the clans I've been in people take screenshots, and post the info in the clan forum. Obviously, since you can't keep track of these 'Lolz I am outcast I kills you n00b' players, you are not doing that, so in essence you have no way to track the same players after you get this persecution scheme going, right? So the registration scheme is a failure to stop it because you can't collect evidence.
What I suggest is that when you see someone posting 'Lolz I am outcast I kills you n00b', then you and your boys record it and then take action against them, and leave the rest of the players alone.
You see, the effect is the same except there is no persecution of the good players.
Unless, of course you have some other motive behind this.
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